FTRAV Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I don't to come across as a smart ass , but why did you get stuck in the first place , lets work on that issue , and maybe we can make some corrections so it don't happen again , and please I have been on the beach since the mid 50's with my dad , when the majority of the vehicles were 2 wheel drive , so please don't think I don't know what I am talking about , the biggest issue are over inflated tires , only you can fill us in on what took place , we have all made mistakes in life , yes including me -- Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrr Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Check these out. Hard to find. Check out a military surplus store or catalogue. Quote: Sized at 1220mm x 310mm x 25mm thick and weighing around 6kgs each, these sand ladders are a very useful item to have on board when you are stuck in mud or sand. Bolt 2 together and they can even double up as bridging ladders. Manufactured from corrosion resistant fibreglass (GRP). They will not rot, corrode or rust and require no maintenance other than a hosing down. The gritted top surface will give an extended life and provide superior traction even in the worst of conditions. SAND LADDERS, I carry 2 I made out of fiberglass grating material, I cut them to fit in the rear of my Jeep. Good unstuck insurance to carry around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spigola Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I don't to come across as a smart ass , but why did you get stuck in the first place , lets work on that issue , and maybe we can make some corrections so it don't happen again , and please I have been on the beach since the mid 50's with my dad , when the majority of the vehicles were 2 wheel drive , so please don't think I don't know what I am talking about , the biggest issue are over inflated tires , only you can fill us in on what took place , we have all made mistakes in life , yes including me -- Frank Frank, at 66 I too have been fishing for quite awhile and one thing I learned is that no matter how careful we may be; stuff happens! In this case, I was following a friend who was driving a vehicle that has higher ground clearance on a stretch of beach that was softened up by all the Spring storms we had last year. I was riding in his track and I thought I could easily go over a little rise in the sand just like he did, but i thought wrong. Hell, I even get a flat tire occasionally. Imagine that, I am not perfect either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I have carried a hoe for a logn time it works great to dig out. the carpet works well also, as do boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTRAV Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Frank, at 66 I too have been fishing for quite awhile and one thing I learned is that no matter how careful we may be; stuff happens! In this case, I was following a friend who was driving a vehicle that has higher ground clearance on a stretch of beach that was softened up by all the Spring storms we had last year. I was riding in his track and I thought I could easily go over a little rise in the sand just like he did, but i thought wrong. Spigola , I do agree that stuff hapens , but let me explain where I was coming from , like I had said earlier I got my first experiences of riding the beach in the mid 50's , on the beaches of Cape Cod , namely Wellfleet, and most of those vehicles were 2 wheel drive , Model A fords , international metro mites { the first beach campers }, and honestly I don't remember them getting stuck , Now in my 40 yrs living in Toms River , and fishing Island Beach State Park , there were not to many weekends that a weekend warrior's would come out of the wood work and hit the beach and get stuck right in the enterance , granted some of the softest sand , all the more reason to deflate there tires to proper specs, also I have found that SOMETIMES , not always riding other peoples ruts can be difficult sometimes , the strain on the engine will give ypu a real clue to that , so I would jump out of there tracks and cut my own , and lastly more and more available space became a premium in my truck, so to add more items seemed a bit much , by no means was I condoning your skills , but trying to see if there was an area of improvement , if you read this board a lot which I assume { LOL }you know what that word means , there is not a week that goes by that a person doesn't ask about tire pressures or vehicle capabilities on the beach , just saying , any way I have heard over the years Carpet works GOOD -- Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmon1 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I've been thinking about purchasing these for a couple of years. Money is always an issue. www.sandmats.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkinTheDog Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I keep all the standard equipment in my jeep but i also have a couple of carpets that will be sacrificed if needed. They are heavy rubber mats, used as an entrance mat for scraping mud off your feet. They add a little cushion to my back when i sleep. They dont take up any room, but are always there when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthered Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I usually don't visit in this forum, but I peeked-in again. I'll throw in my $.02 with a couple of thoughts--feel free to throw 'em right out again. In this case, I was following a friend who was driving a vehicle that has higher ground clearance on a stretch of beach that was softened up by all the Spring storms we had last year. I was riding in his track and I thought I could easily go over a little rise in the sand just like he did, but i thought wrong. Indeed, stuff happens, and I totally agree with Darth Baiter : "... I try and sense when things are going wrong and stop...." Preface Like FTRAV "I don't want to come across as a smart ass" or as a know it all. We're just kicking around ideas--right? I, at first, had thought of using water as an original idea, but as I read through the responses I saw that the water idea was suggested by Darth Baiter and that he had heard of this--so much for original thinking. I believe that the foremost thought to keep in mind about getting unstuck and not getting stuck in the first place is thinking in terms of momentum instead of power (gas peddle). In your case, one's objective would be to go forward to get up on top. Think Chevron Supreme gasoline who use to advertise that with their gasoline "you can go backward as well as forward." Don"t try to "power" your way out. Patiently work your way forward and backward how ever much you can and you'll find that the forward and back distance that you can travel should eventually increase. At either end, your vehicle will be gaining momentum to assist power to the wheels. Another assist comes from gravity--breaking out downhill is your best chance in a really difficult situation. Remember that your vehicle probably has 4X4 Low, too. This will give you power from RPMs and not just "digging" torque. The hoe idea sounds like it will save one's back. I have a cheap plastic snow shovel with a collapsible handle. It's not flat; it's more like a coal scoop. You don't have to lift the sand. Just slide (pull) the sand filled shovel out away from the problem area. You can go down to 10psi and that low pressure will not be a problem. Think momentum for keeping out of trouble and for getting out of it--when stuff happens. Tips to remember: keep moving; take a run at it; better luck down hill; and, easy does it, for creating a track to use for taking a run at it (letting momentum do as much of the work as possible). At my age, just about everything pisses me off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Tj Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 well ever since i framed the truck and camper , i carry some 'strips ' of carpet . haven't had to use them , but know people who swear by them .. You can use your floor mats as well or get a door mat (low profile with rubber backing) at Homies. Democracy is not being a robot and doing what your party tells you to do. America, a country so great that even its haters refuse to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoopie Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 you could use that wired stick fence they use to fence in endangered bird species- you can probably roll your own. i used that this fall...really helped me out of a jam. i was on a narrow and steep stretch of beach with good erosion on the top side and a 3ft cliff to the water on the lower side. started digging in and sliding down towards the water and eventually got to the point where i couldnt go forward anymore or i would slide off the small cliff into the water. i looked around and there was a bunch of that fence lying on the beach up by the eroded dune so i pulled it out and layed it under my jeep infront of the back tires. i reversed as much as i safely could, put it in 4x4 low and tried to gain as much speed as i could steering upwards and down the beach. when i hit the fence i had enough speed gained enough traction to shoot up on top of the sand and get up higher on the beach to a safe spot. afterwards i coiled up the fence and put it back where i got it from and tried to flatten out my tracks as much as i could where i dug in and left. that fence is everywhere and works really well if you use it to your advantage East Hampton, NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgoat Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 I f you can place a (BUMP JACK) on your front or rear bumper (in the middle) you can jack the front end or rear end off the ground and then push the jeep sideways at which point you will bo out of the ruts and on top of new sand. If you can't jack from the middle of you bumper this might not work. Have used this trick for years-way back -and is the fastest way to get unstuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 You can use your floor mats as well or get a door mat (low profile with rubber backing) at Homies. yup that will work , but my carpet strips are a lot longer than my floor mats and a lot cheaper I f you can place a (BUMP JACK) on your front or rear bumper (in the middle) you can jack the front end or rear end off the ground and then push the jeep sideways at which point you will bo out of the ruts and on top of new sand. If you can't jack from the middle of you bumper this might not work. Have used this trick for years-way back -and is the fastest way to get unstuck that will work , but i have a rack on the front and a camper overhanging the back derf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldgoat Posted February 3, 2011 Report Share Posted February 3, 2011 Sorry to much for a camper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman1 Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 Go slow and steady on the beach and air down. Don't "floor" it when the truck starts to bog down. Alot of people seem to make the situation worst. There are lots of ways to get un-stuck. Dig out with a shovel (so your wheels aren't just spinning in a hole), boards,carpet, jack it up, winch/come-a-long, snap line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katguy Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 And you use the 2x4 strips how please? ive seen them just put infront of all 4 tires and drive up them. the tires will spin and bring them under a bit then grab. slow and steady DON'T MAKE ME OPEN IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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