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going to try on my sp minnow, bought a couple of the owner inline hooks, Super Strike (from their facebook page) is going to be using single hooks on some of its special plugs.

Unlike the tuna lures that already use the concept I didn't employ a swivel, I have to think there is going to be a leverage issue especially on a plug like the SP where there is just a hook hanger. :shock: we will have to see what the spring brings

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I used single hooks on some poppers when schoolies wouldn't leave them alone and the hookup rates were terrible. When you do hook a fish they are hooked great but most of the time you miss the fish. I might consider double hooks though.

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I've switched everything to inline. I'll sacrifice misses for the convenience and conservation benefit.

 

On SP I'm using 5/0 VMC and for everything else VMC 7/0. Basically, trebles 3/0 and 4/0 would be 7/0 Inline.

 

The one issue is that with some lures the front tteble acts as a rudder and/or weight so experiment. I've also removed the front hook but again this may not work on all plugs.

 

My conversions have been to SP (as stated), Gibbs Bottle, SS Bottle and TA SubDarter. All swim well. Will be also converting my A16/A17 Bombers and anything else I throw.

 

Tried it on a Danny but that really needs a belly tteble because of the swivels in play.

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I heard SS will be doing that on their future show specials, and I've seen it on tuna and marlin rigs.  Really has helped out the marlin fishery down south, as far as lowering mortality rates.  I'm going to try it out on some plugs, I have a huge stockpile of inlines for my bait & wait rigs. 


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Started doing so in my fw plugs.....alot of places i fish...if i bring those in my core group.....I disallow any use of multiple trebles. The large eyed single hooks that have become easily available are awesome.

 

Although sizing them correctly with smaller suspending baits....may take some fiddling and lead wire.

 

I'm curios to see what will happen to hook up ratios on crankbaits rigged with 2 inline hooks vs 1 treble......The most important thing to me is if Smallmouth and largemouth grab the belly hook....that trailing hook doesn't get their eye.....if it does.....i feel it defeated the whole purpose.....and i'll go back to 1 treble.

 

only downfall is they get pretty pricey...if you plan on overhauling alot of pluggage....plan on big coin for saltwater grade sizes. even the smaller fw sizes get pricey....figured on getting a few different sizes....only to find i used mainly the size 2's and size 1's would probably have been more ideal. Difference is one less per pack.....not huge at 3.50/ pack......

 

The owners for saltwater.........about 2$ to 2.25 per hook.......Vmc's about a buck a pop.

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Do what I do. Remove all hooks and just arm what's needed at the moment. Not all tackle is fished year round and much of my gear are spares.

 

Adding hooks takes seconds. Some can be done without pliers. Just align the ring so the opening is away from the hook and then place the hook eye centered between the two rings and pop in. Works essier when the ring is a decent size.

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Going barbless goes a long way to further ensuring a quick release and eliminated the need to carry pliers for that purpose. Just keep a tight line. It works.

 

 

 

More fish will definitely come unbuttoned, that's the downside. I'll conserve after they are on the sand.;)

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More fish will definitely come unbuttoned, that's the downside. I'll conserve after they are on the sand.;)

Not really. I've caught lots of groupers and big snappers this way. Just keep a tight line.

 

The barb is there for holding bait. Not fish. The barb requires more force to penetrate and creates a bigger hole. Barbless goes in quick and stays set if you keep a tight line.

 

Next time you're into schoolies or blues just try it. Works with trebles as well. You'll be surprised how few fish if any come on buttoned.

 

Now if you're the sort that pumps the rod and then leaves slack on the line then this won't work but that also loses fish with barbs.

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Something else to consider with barbless singles or just singles. Removing hooks is so fast that it makes up with more fishing time for those missed hits or lost fish. We've all had that fish that either engulfed the lure or hit all three points in their mouth.

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Not really. I've caught lots of groupers and big snappers this way. Just keep a tight line.

 

The barb is there for holding bait. Not fish. The barb requires more force to penetrate and creates a bigger hole. Barbless goes in quick and stays set if you keep a tight line.

 

Next time you're into schoolies or blues just try it. Works with trebles as well. You'll be surprised how few fish if any come on buttoned.

 

Now if you're the sort that pumps the rod and then leaves slack on the line then this won't work but that also loses fish with barbs.

 

I went that route for FW large and smallmouth bass........After losing many when they thrash on the surface. I went back. Fish that have bony mouths and stay down stay pinned better. Fish that breach and have membrane and bone mouths you'll lose.....The only thing keeping a barbed hooked pinned when the hook hole tears is the barb and constant pressure.....Short Fast action rods and braid can make that very difficult.

 

 

 

About the only swapping out hooks on various lures....I don't know about you.....but I could be backpacking a float tube in the morning....kayaking a river or plugging the beach in the late afternoon....then the next morning be 120 miles offshore...following that up with plugging for musky.......ain't nobody got time fo all dat musical hook stuff :) It's one solution I guess. But

Keepin track of hook sizes and what plug has what hook...and what plug did you swap hooks on that's now bare........UGHH......starting to twitch just thinking about it.

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Not really. I've caught lots of groupers and big snappers this way. Just keep a tight line.

 

The barb is there for holding bait. Not fish. The barb requires more force to penetrate and creates a bigger hole. Barbless goes in quick and stays set if you keep a tight line.

 

Next time you're into schoolies or blues just try it. Works with trebles as well. You'll be surprised how few fish if any come on buttoned.

 

Now if you're the sort that pumps the rod and then leaves slack on the line then this won't work but that also loses fish with barbs.

 

 

 

 

If the barb doesn't hold fish, why is it so much easier to release a barbless hooked fish?

 

I do agree with keeping a tight line, I'm not a highsticker, usually an angled rod and I let the fish run, thats the part I enjoy, wouldn't want to miss that part, otherwise I could just go for a walk on the beach and toss a ball to myself. I wish I could believe I wouldn't lose more fish, I'd convert. I sharpen up trebles to make sure they get deep. So, I say good for you, you probably help the fish, its just not for me.

 

 

 

 

Something else to consider with barbless singles or just singles. Removing hooks is so fast that it makes up with more fishing time for those missed hits or lost fish. We've all had that fish that either engulfed the lure or hit all three points in their mouth.

 

 

 

 

I often remove the middle treble on plugs with a 3 hook set-up, sometimes just too many hooks. I can deal with hook removal, a good pair of pliers and an aggressive approach with dentist like twisting skills, I have most fish released in a jiffy. If you need practice buy a cheap chicken or your kids teddy bear;) and bury some hooks into it, then remove them.:p And I'd rather a barbed hook when hooked into the harder bone areas of a fishes mouth, at least if can bury that, your not gonna drop it. Most fish I lose these days are in the wash, usually rough conditions and I'm not really concerned with losing a fish, sometimes a 10 ft. release is welcomed, saves me the effort of unhooking and the fish never leaves the water. Also, I'm old enough to not be concerned with how many, how quickly I can catch, learned a long time ago, its 1 at a time and I'm in no hurry.:D

 

I think its great that there are folks wanting to use barbless, I just point out my opinion for another perspective. Agree or disagree, we both have our ideas. I'm probably doing the fish more harm, doesn't really bother me, I only keep a few every year for friends and I'd never waste a fish.

"Thats as big as a fish that size gets" - Russ Wilson
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