fishing bum wannabe Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I have been jealous of all the plug makers who I have seen with duplicators. At Slips get together I got to see them in the metal and in action> And now I had the hots for one. Unfortunately I have many wants including a couple of new Abus, another Penn SS, an All Star 1209 so that I can go to the canal and pretend I have a clue, and on and on. So... With a little research on the net, some scap 8/4 Oak, some melamine covered particle board and some odds and ends around the shop I came up with a duplicator and I bought no parts. If you discount the 3 hours I put into it, it was "free". The cutter is a piece of 1/4" tool steel. This will also be the base for a jig to make bottle swimmer lips that are exact clones of each other. The template was a piece of 3/8" cherry that I had. I have enough to make templates for 8 different plugs. These are some 6" Danny Phat Boys ala Bassmaster. If you are going to copy, steal from the best. The duplicator is surprisingly quick. It is actually quicker than the Carba-tech and the Vega I saw in action. I still need to do some refining to mount the rig on the lathe bed and to mount and be able to easily adjust the templates. t_man7 1 “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breezy Kid Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 WOW!! That is nice! Could you post some more pics, please please please! :-} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIB Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 nice now there is a thinkin man. Build a Better Mantrapand the Rats will beat a path to your Door.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondwrapper Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Sometimes the answer is right in front of your nose. Simple but very efective. Wy to go! John LIBBA 440 MSA 791MEMBER: Team GreenMonday to Friday I do nothing. Saturday and Sunday I rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jig Man Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Very cool idea Extra big thanks for taking the time to share. I believe someone else posted a design for a duplicator a while back too. Jigman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Fred, I absolutely love it. That is definately using your head. I really like the simplicity of that as well. Nice job and thanks for posting it. Now you'll have me making one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing bum wannabe Posted January 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Slip I have ten more tool steel bits if you want to build your own duplicator. As I stated, this setup is fast. I thought I would have to rough them out and then just finish them with the duplicator. But no. I am able to turn them from square stock with the jig. “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipknot Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 That is excellant. One question though. Doesn't the tool need to be kept pretty square to the workpiece? kinda like a duplicator does along the guides. I suppose you can just eyeball it right? as long as it's close. Those copies look sweet, and it's great that you can go right from square stock If I have touble finding tool steel, I'll take you up on that.thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing bum wannabe Posted January 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 The guide at the bottom ( a piece of 3/8" aluminum rod) and the bit at the top have the same profile and they are directly in verticle alignment. This aleviates the necessity to keep the tool at aright angle to the plug. “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.i.fish.in.vt Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 thats a great idea, what shape is the cutter that you made? is it a vee shaped cutter like the vegas? nothing like keeping it simple and cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 That will cost You 2 plugs for using a Bm idea. Union rules, Looks Like You been Ho'd By the original Ho. Nice Idea P.S. fork them over Plug Ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing bum wannabe Posted January 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 The cutter is a piece of 1/4" sq tool steel gound to a point, then the point rounded off to a 1/16" radius. The bit is also ground so that there is some shearing effect. I have done this before and gotten excellent results. I need to do some more work on this bit before I will get a decent shear. My experience is that no matter how I grind the bit, when it cuts it will still be rough enough to require some sanding. It is no where as smooth as when I use chisels and gouges. On the other hand no matter how hard I worked, marking the blank using a story stick and constantly measuring with calipers, I never got the consistancy I am getting now. This is a result of trying to get consistantly shaped bottle swimmer plugs. Its all MrPogies fault! [This message has been edited by fishing bum wannabe (edited 01-20-2003).] “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumbucket Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I like it too! Hey Yo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpogie Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 Very impressive Fred, I think that idea will help a lot of guys. I like seeing the ideas that people come up with using their own ingenuity. Some of the handiest things we use in plug building just aren't being made, so you end up making them yourself. Excellent work. ...mrpogie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
member23108 Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 And for copying my duplicator I charge you 3 plugs Nice Job Fred. One question, is that block of wood held down at all or is it floating? Reason I ask is I see a serious safety issue if it's not held down at all....bit hits a tough spot in the wood, grabs, rips it out of your hand, spins it back and shoot it into your belly or your face....would not be a pretty site.... ------------------ My wife says I never listen to her...or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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