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47 mins ago, John P said:

I use non bailed for surf casting ,boat casting bailed.  Surf casting heavy weights or plugs non bail can't snap shut and break off the plug or bait/weight.

I’ve heard this before but in practice, I'm curious how often it actually happen, and if all the cons of going bail-less are worth the $10 in lost plugs?
 

For me, the biggest benefit would be less to damage, but then I realize it’s attached to a fragile stick of carbon fiber, and if I do something to damage the bail, the rod probably isn’t going to be doing too well either. 

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I've had more problems, or user errors, with my 6500bls, 4500bls, and 706z (new version) spinning around and catching line than any purported bail closers.  This is not a problem with my VS.  With all that said, I still prefer the bailless. 

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Usually the beach surfcaster  is putting a  lot of umph behind the casts can trip the bail without meaning too. A $50 custom plug  flies off into the horizon.  Use a VS and you're good to go.

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Bailed for me I think. As far as bail flipping closed.. never happened to me and we cast big baits with 15' rods (always use manual close, stellaSW , Daiwa Saltiga etc)

From what I gather in these responses I don't really see much advantage of bailess except the durability / maintenence factor, and if I want to do bait and plugs bailess falls behind..

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Most problems I've witnessed over the years were due to untimed / mis-timed reels, bail or no bail makes little difference in my opinion

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The other alternative is go baitcasting and really be fishing.  I prefer bait caster most of the time.  Watch bass masters tournaments and see how good those guys are. Pin point precision. 

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I have never had a bail close and cause a lure to break off. Maaaybe once but if I recall there was a nasty wind knot involved. I like bailed reels for fishing from boats, especially doing stuff like vertical jigging where I can just pop it open and close it without much thought if the just has to go back down a little further. 

 

The advantage of a bailless reel for me is the simplicity and convenience on the beach. I put my surf rod down in the sand all the time. If there's a bail, it's just a moving part that can break from getting gummed up with sand. And taking long casts with the surf rod is straight forward and I can just pick up the line when the lure lands.

 

Even for light backbay stuff when I'm pitching at docks or oyster beds or whatever, I like a bailed reel so I don't have to worry about missing the line with my finger and my lure or bait getting hung up on structure because I casted too far. 

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