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Greetings from NYC,

I have been working on my first serious rod setup to start backbay/shore bucktailing and plugging and came to the conclusion that my casting technique sucks azz.

At the moment I'm playing with a 8.8 AWE with a 4500 BG.

While practicing casting I started to question the relation of the spool diameter relative to guide diameter, and how much of a factor may be towards casting distance.
Specifically, wouldn't the line coming off a larger the spool contact the guides (especially the first couple of guides) differently than a smaller spool? .. With the wider line pattern coming off a wider spool resulting in more drag/friction on the line when contacting the first couple of guides, which would effect overall distance?

Thanks 

 

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I think this was the evolution of my dunning Kruger experience:
 

  1.   larger the spool - the larger the loops coming off the reel meaning “more line per loop” or “less loops” so that’s better. 
  2. But the spool should probably “match” a spec to the stripper guide in size and distance from the reel. Cone of flight makes sense. 
  3. Damn, those Fuji k concept things look pretty & Japanese engineered! Slow mo amazing 
  4. Then I heard amazing things about the Zenaq guide system. Small inner diameter guides higher from the blank. Slow mo even more amazing 
  5. a thread here in the main reminded me of some older rods with fewer gigantic guides I used to get crazy distances on. (Absolutely no credit to @hobobob) ;-)
  6. I know nothing. I scrambled my brain. 

 

Here’s an image to get your noodle cooking while you wait for the actual experts to weigh in. ;-)

 

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, pelhambaycc said:

Greetings from NYC,

I have been working on my first serious rod setup to start backbay/shore bucktailing and plugging and came to the conclusion that my casting technique sucks azz.

At the moment I'm playing with a 8.8 AWE with a 4500 BG.

While practicing casting I started to question the relation of the spool diameter relative to guide diameter, and how much of a factor may be towards casting distance.
Specifically, wouldn't the line coming off a larger the spool contact the guides (especially the first couple of guides) differently than a smaller spool? .. With the wider line pattern coming off a wider spool resulting in more drag/friction on the line when contacting the first couple of guides, which would effect overall distance?

Thanks 

 

Absolutely esp with mono, much less with braided lines.

Rod length plays a part as well.

Just any reel on a rod doesn't work best.

When I was a young guy we always had our first guide larger than the spool and then came the first Fuji guides that changed it some so we took off the top 3 or four wire guides and added the Fuji's, worked better whilst leaving the first big wire guides.

HH

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Go back & search Fuji concept, distance casting, guide layout, etc., there is lot of information on SOL.

1st guide(stripper) is placed on a set of ratios of both the guide diameter & the spool diameter & line diameter or type. Remaining guides are based on rod length.

Lots more of you get the search right.

Have fun...

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I appreciate all the replies.

 

I'm definitely going to look into it further.

 

In the mean time I'll be respooling a crisp lil OG Slammer 570L that I found online with some 20lb 832 and swap out the 4500BG on the 8.8 AWE and see how it throws.

 

I'm feeling the desire to give a lil insight into what brought me to this place.

 

After watching hours of J Skinner videos, especially his shore/bucktailing stuff, I became "enlightened" to the beauty, and the reward, of honing such skills.

 

I'm thrilled to be looking forward to tweaking a sweet rod setup, and working towards to the point where casting comfortably, casting rhythmically, and quite honestly , casting "peacefully", is a reward in itself.

 

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