Once again, soft baits for stripers off rocky coasts

[dvalente98]

7 hours ago, EricDice said:

Totally agree, although I keep melting them somehow - no matter how hard I try. 
 

somebody call the whambulance for me, lol. 

 

Melting them from heat or dissolving?

 

I've read that mixing them with other soft plastics in plastics bags can cause the zman products to breakdown cause the foreign chemicals react with the more "bio-degradable" stuff in the z-man. 

 

Not sure if that helps...

[EricDice]

2 mins ago, dvalente98 said:

 

Melting them from heat or dissolving?

 

I've read that mixing them with other soft plastics in plastics bags can cause the zman products to breakdown cause the foreign chemicals react with the more "bio-degradable" stuff in the z-man. 

 

Not sure if that helps...

Not mixed with other soft plastic/rubber. I learned that the hard way. 
 

Nope. Two of my favorite already rigged up diezel minnowz deformed to the point of being unusable while inside a ziplock style baggie with a little coating of scented oily stuff. 
 

I guess the plastic baggie was reactive to the elaztech.
 

I will have to rethink my approach but it gets harder & harder to work them into my bag and/or bucktail pouch when they need to be sanitized, pasteurized & segregated so completely. 

[dvalente98]

Just now, EricDice said:

Not mixed with other soft plastic/rubber. I learned that the hard way. 
 

Nope. Two of my favorite already rigged up diezel minnowz deformed to the point of being unusable while inside a ziplock style baggie with a little coating of scented oily stuff. 
 

I guess the plastic baggie was reactive to the elaztech.
 

I will have to rethink my approach but it gets harder & harder to work them into my bag and/or bucktail pouch when they need to be sanitized, pasteurized & segregated so completely. 

 

Yea they're great, but i completely agree. The company needs to find an even medium between user friendly and environmentally friendly... 

[yogiiiboy]

59 mins ago, EricDice said:

Not mixed with other soft plastic/rubber. I learned that the hard way. 
 

Nope. Two of my favorite already rigged up diezel minnowz deformed to the point of being unusable while inside a ziplock style baggie with a little coating of scented oily stuff. 
 

I guess the plastic baggie was reactive to the elaztech.
 

I will have to rethink my approach but it gets harder & harder to work them into my bag and/or bucktail pouch when they need to be sanitized, pasteurized & segregated so completely. 

That’s true E……. If it helps, I’ve always taken them off the hook when I was done with them for the day and put them right back in the zman bag they came in.  Knock on wood, have never had a problem……but again, I would take them right off the hook for precautionary reasons to be safe.

[codfish]

On 11/14/2023 at 10:04 AM, yogiiiboy said:

That’s true E……. If it helps, I’ve always taken them off the hook when I was done with them for the day and put them right back in the zman bag they came in.  Knock on wood, have never had a problem……but again, I would take them right off the hook for precautionary reasons to be safe.

I tried the Z Man rubber they were not the as easy to rig as my sluggos, maybe I just need more practice

[EricDice]

On 11/14/2023 at 10:04 AM, yogiiiboy said:

That’s true E……. If it helps, I’ve always taken them off the hook when I was done with them for the day and put them right back in the zman bag they came in.  Knock on wood, have never had a problem……but again, I would take them right off the hook for precautionary reasons to be safe.

No can do compadre. The paddletail kept sliding down the jig so the became “affixed.” Lol. 
 

The zman rubbers ;-) are permanently attached to the jighead. As to whether I would do it that way again, I dunno yet. Lol.

 

(I have a bunch of stripers on the one pictured which I adapted slightly from the look below & it looks smoother that that but the melted one breaks my heart.)

 

 

Edited November 20 by EricDice

[LockedDrag]

On 11/13/2023 at 9:48 PM, yogiiiboy said:

don't ignore that 7.5" sluggo  ......that length has not only caught me stripers, but some sizable 30+ pound slobs 

Ouu man that length has saved me many a night. 

[yogiiiboy]

9 hours ago, EricDice said:

No can do compadre. The paddletail kept sliding down the jig so the became “affixed.” Lol. 
 

The zman rubbers ;-) are permanently attached to the jighead. As to whether I would do it that way again, I dunno yet. Lol.

 

(I have a bunch of stripers on the one pictured which I adapted slightly from the look below & it looks smoother that that but the melted one breaks my heart.)

 

 

Wait…….are you saying zman baits are sliding down your hooks?

[EricDice]

1 hour ago, yogiiiboy said:

Wait…….are you saying zman baits are sliding down your hooks?

Yes, sliding down the hook until gluing and I ended up using thread too. 
 

This 6” zman is incorporated into a bucktail. Took my PB last Fall and melted in a ziplock bag sometime since. 
 

Gonna put a spinner blade on it like a “dart spin.”

[yogiiiboy]

24 mins ago, EricDice said:

Yes, sliding down the hook until gluing and I ended up using thread too. 
 

This 6” zman is incorporated into a bucktail. Took my PB last Fall and melted in a ziplock bag sometime since. 
 

Gonna put a spinner blade on it like a “dart spin.”

ED………. If the jighead doesn’t have a “catch” then yes, baits will eventually slide down the hook.  Outside of jigheads, swim bait hooks are what’s used to optimize these baits.  Those that have the pin or hitchhikers at the head of these hooks are THE ticket 

[srm413]

back to sluggos......i would primarily use them casting to rocky areas, off a boat in southern maine in the daytime.  best color choice?

[yogiiiboy]

4 hours ago, srm413 said:

back to sluggos......i would primarily use them casting to rocky areas, off a boat in southern maine in the daytime.  best color choice?

down here in south jersey, the 6, 7.5 and 9 inch versions are all very productive on sandy beaches.  Subtle twitches all the way in was a consistent method that produced.  Could not beat pearl and bubblegum colors during the daytime.  These baits still rank up there till this day even with some of the newer soft plastics that have hit the market.