reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 (edited) From the end of May to end of September, just too many people on the beach. You can’t just go swing a fly rod. Can’t take a chance and hook somebody. You have to go out early in the morning unless it’s raining. I don’t fish in the rain anymore at 72. I did in the past. Can only drive the beach from the last week in September to mid May after then too many people. So really, the fun is just starting!!!!!! Edited October 11 by reel em in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 (edited) Productive day yesterday fishing the back bay. No fish, but good casting. I was using a short belly Spey line with 46 foot head 100 ft line stripped out. 54 ft in line tray. I took off the Mow tip. Use that out front only. Sometimes the loop would collapse on the forward cast but the fly would unfold and lead the way. Today I’m going to try different line Medium belly spey line with 53 foot head Edited October 11 by reel em in yarddog59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Graveyard Shift Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 On 10/8/2023 at 9:39 AM, yarddog59 said: Tom, Thanks again and shoot from the hip, as I have a well tested hazardous environmental coating and can't be overinsulted! Experience is the best teacher, thats why I ask. I had been using a Loomis 9 foot single hand 10 weight outfront for many years, and believed the T&T TH overhead surf could be an upgrade. On bluebird days outfront it has been with a ridge running line FIST head and various tips. Problem is all the loop to loop connections prevent working the fly offering all the way in to the lip, without bringing the loops throught the guides. Last fall run I had several big ones hooked up with the loops insid the guides and the rod tip. I'm experimenting with intgegrated line as I go, but with not as much distance as the skagit mix. Breaking things can happen but I'm committed. YD I use the T&T surf rods on 90% of my trips. Get the 12WT and use full integrated lines with 30' head tapers in the 500-550 grain range. I have broken my T&T rods 3 times since I got them in 2018. T&T has charged a very reasonable repair fee and returned them in 90 days. Breaking rods is normal if you fish hard and usually they break due to a mistake you made. The 10wt is a great rod if you want to save your shoulders a lot of pain by casting two hand overhead but I dont think it offers the advantages to cast in moderate to high wind or throw large flies that the 12wt offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Graveyard Shift Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 2 hours ago, reel em in said: From the end of May to end of September, just too many people on the beach. You can’t just go swing a fly rod. Can’t take a chance and hook somebody. You have to go out early in the morning unless it’s raining. I don’t fish in the rain anymore at 72. I did in the past. Can only drive the beach from the last week in September to mid May after then too many people. So really, the fun is just starting!!!!!! This is part of why I fish 90% of my trips at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 39 mins ago, The Graveyard Shift said: I use the T&T surf rods on 90% of my trips. Get the 12WT and use full integrated lines with 30' head tapers in the 500-550 grain range. I have broken my T&T rods 3 times since I got them in 2018. T&T has charged a very reasonable repair fee and returned them in 90 days. Breaking rods is normal if you fish hard and usually they break due to a mistake you made. The 10wt is a great rod if you want to save your shoulders a lot of pain by casting two hand overhead but I dont think it offers the advantages to cast in moderate to high wind or throw large flies that the 12wt offers. You are correct on that 12 wt. I was going to order a 12 wt but changed it to a 10 wt because I have a habit of going heavy. I moved on to other rods now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 39 mins ago, The Graveyard Shift said: This is part of why I fish 90% of my trips at night. I tried that many years ago in my youth but I was in construction. Go to bed early at night and get up at 3 or 4 o’clock in the morning. Can’t break habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 Nice to see you post Graveyard Shift I really enjoyed your posts back in the day. Also your fly tying. It was because of your posts about the T&T surf rod I purchased it and saw your picture on there site. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 (edited) Called off fly fishing and casting today. No wind. Calm Calm wind at the bay. Out front wind right ear. And no I don’t fish on the back cast. No fun beating the water. You want wind I stopped fly fishing on calm days years ago. So now this is what I’m doing. King Fishing. Bass are not around yet. Looking north and south do you see anybody fishing? Edited October 11 by reel em in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sms Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 21 hours ago, Mike Oliver said: Impressive that you got a Scandi line to lift a T. TIP. Cut any high class scandi head 15-20ft from the tip and loop it (essentially make it a multi head body) and it will handle heavy sink tips. Checked my AFS body and from the cut point it is has same g/m or gr/ft than a comparable skagit front. With very fast sinking heads I actually like them short (ie 30' deep water express) - they fish better. And they cast fine when wading deep. Annoying to cast when in ankle water thou as there is not much line behind the rod in forward cast, long leader would be needed or the anchor slips easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 5 mins ago, sms said: Cut any high class scandi head 15-20ft from the tip and loop it (essentially make it a multi head body) and it will handle heavy sink tips. Checked my AFS body and from the cut point it is has same g/m or gr/ft than a comparable skagit front. With very fast sinking heads I actually like them short (ie 30' deep water express) - they fish better. And they cast fine when wading deep. Annoying to cast when in ankle water thou as there is not much line behind the rod in forward cast, long leader would be needed or the anchor slips easily. You gave me an idea. I have a Scandi line that I don’t like. I’m gonna cut it now. I’ll measure out what the weight will be before I cut it and length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Stu Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 On 10/10/2023 at 6:05 AM, Mike Oliver said: Vision Hybrid lines with their tips can make into a reasonable overhead line. Mike. Mike, Took a look at these... looks like they are all floating lines? Do you not prefer to use intermediate running and sinking heads in the surf? Or at least an intermediate head with a sink tip? Great thread BTW. Sucks that my surf here is too big for fishing today. Nothing makes a fish bigger than almost being caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 3 mins ago, Uncle Stu said: Mike, Took a look at these... looks like they are all floating lines? Do you not prefer to use intermediate running and sinking heads in the surf? Or at least an intermediate head with a sink tip? Great thread BTW. Sucks that my surf here is too big for fishing today. I see you are from California. I am in New Jersey. Surf is OK but the wind. Maybe tomorrow. Uncle Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oliver Posted October 11 Report Share Posted October 11 24 mins ago, Uncle Stu said: Mike, Took a look at these... looks like they are all floating lines? Do you not prefer to use intermediate running and sinking heads in the surf? Or at least an intermediate head with a sink tip? Great thread BTW. Sucks that my surf here is too big for fishing today. I would prefer to have heads in all the densities. But floating heads can work off the beach with tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 7 mins ago, Mike Oliver said: I would prefer to have heads in all the densities. But floating heads can work off the beach with tips. Mike You are talking overhead casting correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reel em in Posted October 11 Author Report Share Posted October 11 Mile Also I remember reading you like 35 ft heads. Is that for overhead or spey casting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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