The Riddler Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 My brand new 2023 Tohatsu 30hp died like it's supposed too when the kill switch deployed after I moved too far away from the helm while going 24 mph or so. The problem I had was it would not restart. After confirming spark and fuel? I had too get towed back to the ramp on the Cape. To me is seemed like the timing advanced. After dropping at the dealer on Thursday afternoon it was confirmed a piece , some type of tee fitting broke. Tohatsu called this normal when your boat is going fast in gear and the kill deploys. I am on the hook for an hour or two labor plus the part. Can anybody here shed some light on this? I have noticed Tohatsu's when in gear hobble when losing power. Always a ticking in gear. I have owned suzukis and never had this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757saltwater Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 Would love to know what part. My brother is a tohatsu dealer and I ran the back for a while. . The way you explain it to me says tohatsu knows about this and it is expected when this occurrence happens.(hard to believe in my eyes) To me that would be engineer/designed that way and a warranty item when it failed. I never personally seen one come back in for this. I've seen saftey neutral switches get out of sinc. Imo Sounds like the motor is in gear and it will prevent it from starting. Saftey nuertal switch sinc problem ,could be strech cable ,linkage etc. From what I was led to believe by inside the mairne industry tohatsu makes almost all the small engine for most manufacture out there under 25-30hp. Just like Honda makes the bigger hp motors for tohatus . They are just rebadge. If this was the case you would be hearing about your scenario above with many manufacture as well just not tohatsu. I'm having a hard time accepting what your dealer relied to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 Makes no sense to have a engine non start after a kill switch is used at speed. That's what it's is there for. Would like to hear what the dealer says and how the Tohatsu people respond. Shouldn't be an expense to get repaired.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAtIt Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 Def seems odd to me - the safety lanyard does its job but then it leaves you stranded in a potentially dangerous situation. once your dealer and Tohatsu get back to you I’d love to see an update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWitek Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 1 hour ago, 757saltwater said: Would love to know what part. My brother is a tohatsu dealer and I ran the back for a while. . The way you explain it to me says tohatsu knows about this and it is expected when this occurrence happens.(hard to believe in my eyes) To me that would be engineer/designed that way and a warranty item when it failed. ... From what I was led to believe by inside the mairne industry tohatsu makes almost all the small engine for most manufacture out there under 25-30hp. Just like Honda makes the bigger hp motors for tohatus . They are just rebadge. If this was the case you would be hearing about your scenario above with many manufacture as well just not tohatsu. I'm having a hard time accepting what your dealer relied to you. I had the same reaction. Have to wonder whether the dealer is might be trying to make more froim the boatowner than it would have from a warranty repair. I;d challenge it as something that the warranty ought to cover. "I have always believed that outdoor writers who come out against fish and wildlife conservation are in the wrong business. To me, it makes as much sense golf writers coming out against grass.." -- Ted Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riddler Posted September 28 Author Report Share Posted September 28 Ok. Just picked it up. Apparently not only did they find a bolt that did not sheer , the fly wheel was damaged too. The owner of Great Bay Marine felt tge fly wheel was defective. So on that he told me no charge. I was grateful because I was prepared to pay what ever it took. NewAtIt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riddler Posted September 28 Author Report Share Posted September 28 Again all that happened was my kill switch came undone while under way. I am even going to make my kill-switch longer so I can move around at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moocks Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 14 mins ago, The Riddler said: Again all that happened was my kill switch came undone while under way. I am even going to make my kill-switch longer so I can move around at the helm. "Apparently not only did they find a bolt that did not sheer , the fly wheel was damaged too. " If you believe that statement you deserve to fall overboard....... Two things in life I love. Fishing, and looking at the wives pictures on the milk Carton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riddler Posted September 28 Author Report Share Posted September 28 38 mins ago, moocks said: "Apparently not only did they find a bolt that did not sheer , the fly wheel was damaged too. " If you believe that statement you deserve to fall overboard....... I have no reason not to believe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moocks Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 50 mins ago, The Riddler said: I have no reason not to believe them. Maybe you can explain the statement then and keep your Captains card makorider 1 Two things in life I love. Fishing, and looking at the wives pictures on the milk Carton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makorider Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 What bolt was supposed to shear? Or did a bolt shear and damage the flywheel? I'm confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightfighter Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 (edited) I have to admit that I bypassed this system for 15 years... Black wire tie around the button the safety piece clips into... It was cut out before a complete removal of the console during fuel tank replacement. No way I could operate my boat effectively or safely if that were clipped to my body/clothing. Real world vs theory.... Edited September 29 by nightfighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Riddler Posted September 29 Author Report Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, nightfighter said: I have to admit that I bypassed this system for 15 years... Black wire tie around the button the safety piece clips into... It was cut out before a complete removal of the console during fuel tank replacement. No way I could operate my boat effectively or safely if that were clipped to my body/clothing. Real world vs theory.... I felt the same way until my 14' hit a lobster buoy and caused the boat to go off course. After that I wanted the 16' with some weight and wear the kill cord and inflatable pretty much at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushfly Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 I've popped mine on my Yami once or twice while underway in a five mile an hour zone. (Putting a rod in a holder, grabbing something fore of console. Never had a problem just clipping it back in and restarting but perhaps it was because I was under slow speed. Good luck with it. Worse comes to worse, if it became a reoccurring problem, you can look into the bluetooth version of a kill switch. Console gets a transmitter and you hold a fob in your pocket or wrist. Hits water or goes away a number of feet, it goes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makorider Posted September 29 Report Share Posted September 29 1 hour ago, nightfighter said: I have to admit that I bypassed this system for 15 years... Black wire tie around the button the safety piece clips into... It was cut out before a complete removal of the console during fuel tank replacement. No way I could operate my boat effectively or safely if that were clipped to my body/clothing. Real world vs theory.... I'm of the same opinion, and have done/do similar on the smaller boats. IMO with competent operation, its not needed. Until it is anyways.... A very dear friend, probably 20 years ago now, was running the Manto yacht club launch in northern Barnegat Bay when the steering cable snapped on the Whaler. Outboard went hard over do to prop rotation, threw her out, then came back around and over her. Had to be medivac'd out of gunners ditch by USCG helo, was touch and go w lacerated liver and whole bunch of other cut up stuff. She still wears the scars on her back like a Manatee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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