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So I'm working an ocean beach today --one where I've seen spanish jump recently but not today. I'm throwing 1 oz. tins --20 lb braid to 20 lb 24 inch  flouro leader fastened with a seven turn surgeon's knot. I land 2 small 3 lb blues no issues .Then I make a cast and as the lure settles I feel a couple of sharp twitches --I start to reel up feel the lure for a second then ...slack ---I reel up a cut end of braid ---that is the braid itself was cut . I'm thinking I was cut off by a mackerel . Is it a thing for them to slash the a line even a couple of feet from the lure ?

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I've lost a few lures fishing for Blues. ALWAYS grab the lure and pull as well as inspect the line close to the lure.

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7 hours ago, EliasA said:

Could’ve been, but if anything it was likely a blue as you were catching blues on the prior casts

 

were you tying braid to a swivel to your leader? I’ve seen blues keyed in on small bait seemingly intentionally hit the swivel to my leader on a couple occasions

Spanish Macks are also known for doing this as well 

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13 hours ago, whistlefish said:

So I'm working an ocean beach today --one where I've seen spanish jump recently but not today. I'm throwing 1 oz. tins --20 lb braid to 20 lb 24 inch  flouro leader fastened with a seven turn surgeon's knot. I land 2 small 3 lb blues no issues .Then I make a cast and as the lure settles I feel a couple of sharp twitches --I start to reel up feel the lure for a second then ...slack ---I reel up a cut end of braid ---that is the braid itself was cut . I'm thinking I was cut off by a mackerel . Is it a thing for them to slash the a line even a couple of feet from the lure ?

Yes, could very well be cut by a mack if not a bluefish.

Surgeon's knot is a very good knot and three wraps are good enough, no need to go to the extent of seven wraps. Seven wraps is bulkier and may look like an interesting fishing fly to bite on.

Both Spanish Mack and blues have razor sharp teeth that can cut clean any line if not wire.

And Macks are also known to target the rig ahead especially if using a shiny swivel.

Go for a tight FG with as discreet as possible appearance in length and especially protruding loose tag ends.

What happened to you means you were fishing in the right place with the right casting distance, being cut off is part of the game and that's why its always good to have enough spare rigs to cover the situation.     

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On 9/20/2023 at 7:55 AM, Surf bomber said:

Blues will hit knots, snaps , swivels and almost anything else you throw in front them …

It's funny you say that because the other day after taking some big blues on pencil poppers I switched over to my fly rod with a popper tied on. Casted into a shallow area I thought they'd be laying. Nothing on or near the popper but I could swear standing up higher on my bow, I could see the blues taking more interest in the fly line itself or the fly line to flouro connection. Saw four or five of them coming after the line as it was being stripped. Perhaps I spooked them and they were leaving this tight corner to a jetty but they weren't swimming away quickly. Just leisurely following the fly line. Odd, never seen it in my thirty years of fly fishing. 

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as was mentioned, that's a pretty bulky knot, and when it's moving through the water it's going to create a bubble trail that bluefish or other mackerel will key-in on.  I would switch to a more streamlined knot like an alberto knot or fg knot, and increase the length of that leader so the knot is farther away from the fish you're reeling in - it will draw less attention that way.

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I can't count the number of times I've had a blue on a ava jig & another one hit the "top" of the jig & cut me off.

The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd

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10 mins ago, Joe said:

I can't count the number of times I've had a blue on a ava jig & another one hit the "top" of the jig & cut me off.

Happened to me twice yesterday. In two casts lol.  20 bucks in epoxy jigs in about 2 minutes

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I lost a rapala x rap the other day. I saw the strike and it took about one second for the bite off to occur. While it happened in a flash, I think it was a Spanish Mac (they really like xrap plugs). The odd thing is he took it and immediately turned down. When I retrieved the line, there was a second serious nick about 3-4” above the cut off end of the leader. It made me wonder whether a second fish that I didn’t see came around and hit the plug while in the first fish’s mouth. 

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