the3fishheads Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 We pay to much taxes already. Put some of that money into the plan instead of their pockets greedy bastages. Fishtale7 1 **** the U.N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollincoal Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 As long as ny is forcing a shakedown of recreational anglers, maybe put an option to buy out commercial interests on the survey… "If you know that and you don't know anything else you know more than if you know everything else and you don't know that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oax Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 Don't sweat it, I'm sure they'll put the money to good use... ken r and rollincoal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWitek Posted September 19 Report Share Posted September 19 9 hours ago, rollincoal said: As long as ny is forcing a shakedown of recreational anglers, maybe put an option to buy out commercial interests on the survey… There is an "other" line where you are free to write it in. "I have always believed that outdoor writers who come out against fish and wildlife conservation are in the wrong business. To me, it makes as much sense golf writers coming out against grass.." -- Ted Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phfatcat Posted Wednesday at 05:05 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 05:05 AM They have to dream up scams...I mean, schemes to pay for all those sanctuary seekers somehow... Richizzzle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken r Posted Wednesday at 08:22 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:22 PM On 9/18/2023 at 11:31 PM, oax said: Don't sweat it, I'm sure they'll put the money to good use... NY is the Empire State, right? Empires don't come cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakalolo Posted Wednesday at 11:26 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 11:26 PM On 9/18/2023 at 11:20 PM, rollincoal said: As long as ny is forcing a shakedown of recreational anglers, maybe put an option to buy out commercial interests on the survey… Any idea what that would cost?! Ny landings are into the 8 figure realm. Good luck with that. IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL FISHING AND SURFING THE NORTH SIDE MAY THE RICH GET RICHER!! FISH ARE FOOD!! UA MAU KA EA O KA AINA IKA PONO O HAWAII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oax Posted Thursday at 01:43 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:43 AM (edited) 7 hours ago, ken r said: NY is the Empire State, right? Empires don't come cheap. NY never runs out of new ideas to fleece working people, that's why I left years ago... Edited Thursday at 03:59 AM by oax Popasilov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted Thursday at 01:56 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:56 AM I don’t understand. What is a “fee based” saltwater license? I thought NY already charged for a saltwater license. I have a buddy that gets an out of state RI license because it’s cheaper than an in-state NY license and they both cover the same waters (he lives in NY). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Robin Posted Thursday at 10:34 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:34 AM 8 hours ago, Rhett said: I don’t understand. What is a “fee based” saltwater license? I thought NY already charged for a saltwater license. I have a buddy that gets an out of state RI license because it’s cheaper than an in-state NY license and they both cover the same waters (he lives in NY). It’s free, and has been free for many years. Unless your buddy is a commercial fisherman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted Thursday at 11:41 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:41 AM He’s not a commercial fisherman but maybe he got it because he was fishing in RI once and didn’t know he didn’t need it for NY as well. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken r Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:18 PM 10 hours ago, oax said: NY never runs out of new ideas to fleece working people, that's why I left years ago... 37 years ago for me. My brothers and sister are still there. Popasilov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted yesterday at 03:17 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:17 AM On 9/21/2023 at 7:41 AM, Rhett said: He’s not a commercial fisherman but maybe he got it because he was fishing in RI once and didn’t know he didn’t need it for NY as well. Thanks for the heads up. Ma works for ri too i wonder if i could use it in ny as well. Always wanted to fish there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWitek Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago 10 hours ago, Patrickstar said: Ma works for ri too i wonder if i could use it in ny as well. Always wanted to fish there Right now, New York recognizes Connecticut and Rhode Island licenses in shared waters--Connecticut in Long Island Sound and Block Island Sound, Rhode Island in the latter (and those states recognize New York's registration in the same waters). However, if someone from Connecticut or Rhode Island wants to fish elsewhere in the state, they need the New York registration. I fish in sestern Connecticut waters often, using my regislration, but when my friennd from Connecticut fishes with me on the South Shore, he needs the New York document. Right now, we can only guess whet reciprocity will exist if New York goes to a fee-based license, but it might well be similar to what it is today. "I have always believed that outdoor writers who come out against fish and wildlife conservation are in the wrong business. To me, it makes as much sense golf writers coming out against grass.." -- Ted Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago On 9/16/2023 at 10:22 AM, CWitek said: The license would generate significant funds for the DEC. All funds generated would, by law, be deposited in the marine resources accout within the state's Conservation Fund, where federal regulatios related to Wallops/Breaux funds virtually guarantee that it could not be diverted. Isn't this a common political bait and switch? Where they say all funds generated by X cannot be diverted - and then the contribution the state historically made to the DEC is reduced by whatever amount this new fund generates? Basically leaving the DEC with exactly the same budget...except it's now funded more by licenses than general funds? I recall this being a thing in the past in other states. While they aren't lying that those new funds can't be diverted...they simple reduce the state's normal contribution by that amount resulting in a new "tax" with absolutely no financial benefit to the folks paying it...in this case, anglers. Obviously, I could be wrong, I'm not aware of the specifics of this situation...I'm just recalling how it worked out in other cases. On 9/16/2023 at 10:22 AM, CWitek said: Such funds will be used, depending on the results of the angler survey now pending, to increased enforcement, artificial reefs, access to the water, habitat improvement, fisheries research, improving recreational fisheries data, angler outreach and education, boat ramps, and similar purposes. Certainly...as long as NY doesn't reduce their existing DEC funding because the licenses revenue now offers them a chance to do so. What could stop the state from reducing their existing DEC budget and leaving the DEC with a net zero budget increase even with $20 million in license revenue? Popasilov 1 Show someone how to catch striped bass and they'll be ready to fish anywhere. Show someone where to go striped bass fishing and you'll have a desperate report chaser with loose lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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