Irishfire18 Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 I just read on a NYS DEC email I received that the state is thinking about ( which means it’s gonna happen) a fee based saltwater license. That have a survey up asking for feedback. I guess if you are registered for saltwater fishing in the state you should receive an email.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakalolo Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 The East End Towns and the residents therein are guaranteed the right to fish their waters “ without let or hindrance “ by the Dongan Patent . The Patent has been upheld twice in NY State Supreme Court. Our current free salt water registry was a result of negotiations between said Towns and the State. A fee based license is guaranteed to bring about a lawsuit. F the State!!!! Cascade, Irishfire18, snag777 and 6 others 6 2 1 IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL FISHING AND SURFING THE NORTH SIDE MAY THE RICH GET RICHER!! FISH ARE FOOD!! UA MAU KA EA O KA AINA IKA PONO O HAWAII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydraman Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 Yea just got an email today. Irishfire18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 14 Report Share Posted September 14 A new NYS tax. What could possibly go wrong. And don't expect a dime coming back to the fishing community Richizzzle, RL Bucktails, Irishfire18 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefishmaster Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 New York State is exploring the potential old and new tricks to extort every cent we have by all means to enrich dirty pockets and the illegal aliens who have been leeching all social services. Speed cameras, tickets for anything they can think of, increasing taxes, and etc... Like above, for every billion dollars, DEC gets 25 cents in revenue but spends only 1 cent to enhance recreational saltwater fishing and management. snag777, C.Robin, Richizzzle and 2 others 3 1 1 Making the world safe for bait, one bluefish at a time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfflyguy Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 Luckily all license sales go directly to the DEC. I do think that the state should have a tag system for striped bass tho C.Robin and pakalolo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushfly Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 More discussion of this in the NY Forum below Irishfire18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWitek Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 On 9/14/2023 at 2:02 PM, pakalolo said: The East End Towns and the residents therein are guaranteed the right to fish their waters “ without let or hindrance “ by the Dongan Patent . The Patent has been upheld twice in NY State Supreme Court. Our current free salt water registry was a result of negotiations between said Towns and the State. A fee based license is guaranteed to bring about a lawsuit. F the State!!!! Remember that the Supreme Court is only the trial level court, presided over bey judges elected by the local voters. If we lived closer, I'd bet you a case of your favorite beverage that an appellate court, whether the Appellate Division or the Court of Appeals, will ultimately rule that the Dongan Patent does not prohibit state licensing of persons pursuing migratory marine species. The appeal of the trial court decision back in 2010 was abandoned after Cuomo became governor. But there is precedent, in a case from the Appellate Division, 2nd Dept., Seacoast Products v. City of Glen Cove, that states very clearly that colonial patents do not override the state's exclusive authority to manage migrator fish (menhaden in that case). "I have always believed that outdoor writers who come out against fish and wildlife conservation are in the wrong business. To me, it makes as much sense golf writers coming out against grass.." -- Ted Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWitek Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 I was asked to sit on the license advisory panel, which includes anglers, members of the recreational fishing industry, and other interested, non-government persons. The license would generate significant funds for the DEC. All funds generated would, by law, be deposited in the marine resources accout within the state's Conservation Fund, where federal regulatios related to Wallops/Breaux funds virtually guarantee that it could not be diverted. Depending on the cost of the license, annual revenues are estimated at $10 million to $20 million per year, including the federal conbtribution. Such funds will be used, depending on the results of the angler survey now pending, to increased enforcement, artificial reefs, access to the water, habitat improvement, fisheries research, improving recreational fisheries data, angler outreach and education, boat ramps, and similar purposes. A civilian oversignt panel, which may be a subcommittee of the Marine Resources Advisory Council, to monitor spending, is proposed. Filling out the survey is the first step in the license process, and will help shape the final form of the license. However, that will ultimately be a legislative decision, providing anglers with a chance to help shape the legiislative process, though both their organizations and individual contacts. Right now, nothing about the license, including whether the state will move forward with the propasal, is cast in stone. Which, again, is why the survey matters. Irishfire18 1 "I have always believed that outdoor writers who come out against fish and wildlife conservation are in the wrong business. To me, it makes as much sense golf writers coming out against grass.." -- Ted Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popasilov Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Bad day fishing is still much better than good day work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Posted September 16 Report Share Posted September 16 Democrat Governor & legislature = more tax $$$, I’ll believe it when I see more enforcement, I haven’t seen any in over two years, but I’ve seen many fisherman over the limits especially now with a 3 bluefish limit, any size. Irishfire18 and snag777 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 In ma we pay about 12bucks a year. Does it help with anything or increase fish and game patrol? I don’t know. What i do know is that a lot of people are always getting caught and i see them driving around a lot. There has also been a number of fishing piers that has been built. All i can say is that i don’t mind paying 12$ but i do hope they are going to the right places. Irishfire18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RL Bucktails Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, Patrickstar said: In ma we pay about 12bucks a year. Does it help with anything or increase fish and game patrol? I don’t know. What i do know is that a lot of people are always getting caught and i see them driving around a lot. There has also been a number of fishing piers that has been built. All i can say is that i don’t mind paying 12$ but i do hope they are going to the right places. Problem is in NYS like everything else, the prices goes up and up. It’s never enough. You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will gain strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted September 17 Report Share Posted September 17 41 mins ago, RL Bucktails said: Problem is in NYS like everything else, the prices goes up and up. It’s never enough. I hear ya. I should move to ny it’ll help me stop smoking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sytheteacher Posted September 18 Report Share Posted September 18 22 hours ago, Patrickstar said: I hear ya. I should move to ny it’ll help me stop smoking I stopped smoking about 25 years ago and got a young girlfriend to help satisfy my oral pacification.. richie c 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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