Splicing mono

[MakoMike]

Question came up in another thread. Bob mentioned splicing mono (20 lb. IIRC) my question is how does one do that?  I know how it’s done with braid but I never hear of splicing mono.

[bob_G]

3 hours ago, MakoMike said:

Question came up in another thread. Bob mentioned splicing mono (20 lb. IIRC) my question is how does one do that?  I know how it’s done with braid but I never hear of splicing mono.

I still don't understand what you mean?  How else do you connect 50lb mono to a 12lb mono running line, if not with a splice?

[DrBob]

how do you splice mono to mono? don't make sense?

[bob_G]

9 mins ago, DrBob said:

how do you splice mono to mono? don't make sense?

I've called it a splice my entire life. Ok, then what do you call it, when you have to connect 15' of heavy shocker mono to a much lighter running line mono?

[MakoMike]

Most people call that joint a knot. Maybe you call a knot a splice, which could be the source of my confusion.

[alaskansteve]

ya need strands of a material like the 3 strands of rope to do a splice. 2 pieces of mono are just tied with a knot(blood knot) or some kind of fancy bend.  what do i know about knots i only commercial fished for 54 years.

[bob_G]

14 mins ago, MakoMike said:

Most people call that joint a knot. Maybe you call a knot a splice, which could be the source of my confusion.

Honestly, I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, but I've called it a splice my entire life. 

[MakoMike]

8 mins ago, bob_G said:

Honestly, I wasn't trying to be a smart ass, but I've called it a splice my entire life. 

Honestly, I believe you. That clears up my confusion.

[Angler #1]

14 hours ago, MakoMike said:

Question came up in another thread. Bob mentioned splicing mono (20 lb. IIRC) my question is how does one do that?  I know how it’s done with braid but I never hear of splicing mono.

Mike when tying knots between  two materials of the same solid process together or mono to braid,  Mono to lead core or even mono to wire  One of the best knots is the Albright Special and when using braid to putting a few more wraps can make the difference in how long it holds . 

In another time when we did splice hollow core dacron we used a special splicing needle to splice the dacron together when ever it broke with just enough line to make up for the where it broke . 

 One of the best books on Knots The Ashely Book of Knots has a section on tying splices it shows tying splices with multiple strands of rope that may have 2,3, or more strands that are married together by splicing [interweaving] and no knots are used to hold it together. 

IN todays happenings when it comes to fishing, for now ,all material tied together using solid material use some sort of knot to accomplish the task , which you already know. Bobs referencing to splicing two different thickness of mono together is using a knot to accomplish the task .  Peace and Prayers 

[Jeff270]

Way back when...... my gramps would call attaching two lines together a “splice”.  Originally, this most likely referred to ropes, but eventually morphed into all line. You attached a line to hardware or lure with a knot.

 

 

[Joe G]

Speaking of shock leaders.  Some years back a canal regular showed me the braid shock leader he was using.  

 

I think his braid running line was 20 - 25 pounds.  To make his braid shock leader, he looped back about 12-15 feet of the braid and tied it off on his braid running line.

 

The braid shock leader was now 40-50 pounds.

 

I didn't pay too much attention to the knot he used to tie the loop end of that braid to the braid running line.  But he made it clear, the knot would hold in place and would not slip.

 

 

Edited June 7 by Joe G

[Angler #1]

1 hour ago, Joe G said:

Speaking of shock leaders.  Some years back a canal regular showed me the braid shock leader he was using.  

 

I think his braid running line was 20 - 25 pounds.  To make his braid shock leader, he looped back about 12-15 feet of the braid and tied it off on his braid running line.

 

The braid shock leader was now 40-50 pounds.

 

I didn't pay too much attention to the knot he used to tie the loop end of that braid to the braid running line.  But he made it clear, the knot would hold in place and would not slip.

 

 

Joe once you put a bend on what you are tying its a knot. That was a general understanding between a splice and a Knot .    You must recall the times when we did in fact splice line together using a splicing needle with cortland dacron . I still have a package in my collection of stuff  Peace and Prayers 

[Joe G]

31 mins ago, Angler #1 said:

Joe once you put a bend on what you are tying its a knot. That was a general understanding between a splice and a Knot .    You must recall the times when we did in fact splice line together using a splicing needle with cortland dacron . I still have a package in my collection of stuff  Peace and Prayers 

The dictionary is very clear in describing a knot and a splice. It’s always interesting to hear how our elders fashioned various joinery to connect one item to another item. Fascinating subject. 

 

 

[b-ware]

2 mins ago, Joe G said:

The dictionary is very clear in describing a knot and a splice. It’s always interesting to hear how our elders fashioned various joinery to connect one item to another item. Fascinating subject. 

 

 

In keeping with the times I asked Alexa what is the best way to knot, bend,join or splice two lines together and she replied that the strongest, easiest and most foolproof method is the Uni to Uni knot or splice....................

[Joe G]

2 hours ago, b-ware said:

In keeping with the times I asked Alexa what is the best way to knot, bend,join or splice two lines together and she replied that the strongest, easiest and most foolproof method is the Uni to Uni knot or splice....................

 

Yep, I've always had good luck with the Uni to Uni.  I wonder how the Ashely Book of Knots ranks the Uni to Uni against other knots.