Patrickstar Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 I just came back from fishing my local river and hooked up on some decent fish. First cast was in the teens second was a 29in and my 30lb Daiwa j fluoro leader broke broke at the angler clip. Luckily i was able to land the fish and not lose my last Al gag which is one of my favorite cause it just works. After a few hook ups on some good size fish that i am guessing are in the low to mid 30 range i didn’t land them they all shook lose. But after that i landed what i am also assuming is a fish close to 40in my leader broke again at the angler clip and the fish flopped back into the water and my al gag went flying in also. This is the first time I’ve tried Daiwa j fluoro and any leader under 50lb. My set up is 30lb braid to barrel swivel to 30lb leader to angler clip all tide with an uni knot. I’ve never experienced this before and am regretting the change in leader and size. I went with this because it was thinner and thought maybe the 50-60lb i was using before was overkill and a bit harder to tie without wasting line due to the thickness. Does anyone have any issues like this or any suggestions would be appreciated thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angler management Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 i use mono 50 lbs ,i have tried flouro leaders and found them harder to set the knots securely , i like the fact that mono has a bit of stretch acting as a shock absorber for the braid - easier to set the knots and 50 lbs i can grab the leader barehanded landing a good size fish , Berkeley big game (green) has given me no problems . the takers get the honey and the givers sing the blues - Robin Trower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidder 329 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 The first time I used fluorocarbon for stripers, I had my fish at the side of the boat. While waiting for the net the fluoro popped mid way between the main line and the hook. There wasn't any knot or nicks it just failed, I wrote to Seagaur and never got a response. MHO is this is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on fisherman. Youtube has abundance of video to verify what I'm saying showing less strength and less abrasion resistance while charging crazy money. As for the visibility aspect people are casting plastic or wood plugs with two or three treble hooks and we're afraid the line is going to spook them. Watch the video's of fluke chasing two buck tails with a camera in front of the bt's. Are stripers smarter than fluke, no...judging from the bizarre stomach contents. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 I was using andi and yozuri 50-60 lbs fluorocarbon before no issues. I think my other friend who uses this Daiwa is having same problems cause i heard my brother saying he can’t tie knots but I’m starting to think that’s not the issue lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bigdeal Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 Use Zebco brand mono...Wal-mart.....2 bucks a spool...from 12 to 50lbs. .....no issues.....catch fish. "The hungry Wolf hunts the best.... Why isn't John Moses Browning on Mt. Rushmore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Hook Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 The knots the weak point, either the line is crap, the knot is bad, or the line is too light or a combination of the three. Go back to the 50/60 and be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 I'm a fan of J-Fluoro leader. It's stiffer than other fluoro leaders I have tried, so I use it mainly for c-rigs and leader to jerk baits. I only use 12 and 20lb. That size works well with double uni's and trilene knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 9 mins ago, S Hook said: The knots the weak point, either the line is crap, the knot is bad, or the line is too light or a combination of the three. Go back to the 50/60 and be happy. Both times it broke off at the clip my knots are always the same and usually works well I’m wondering if it’s caused by being too thin and sliding through the clip causing it to fray like from the end you tie to the end where you hook the plug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Hook Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 6 mins ago, Patrickstar said: Both times it broke off at the clip my knots are always the same and usually works well I’m wondering if it’s caused by being too thin and sliding through the clip causing it to fray like from the end you tie to the end where you hook the plug “Knot” sure. I use a 60 pound Ande leader on my plug rod. Edited May 31 by S Hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasA Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 Fluoro is a bit more difficult to tie knots in than mono because fluoro is a bit more fragile. if the knot isn’t properly moistened, or is tightened too fast, or a loop is crossed while tying the knot, or several other small factors that wouldn’t be noticeable with mono can all cause the fluoro to break at the knot. the fact that it was breaking right at the clip means the issue has something to do with the knot. Maybe try a different knot, or be sure to tie the uni very carefully with lots of lunrocation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLap21 Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) What knot are you using? Edit: Just saw Uni Knot. Are you moistening it? Possible you are burning the line when cinching it down? Edited May 31 by TLap21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 42 mins ago, EliasA said: Fluoro is a bit more difficult to tie knots in than mono because fluoro is a bit more fragile. if the knot isn’t properly moistened, or is tightened too fast, or a loop is crossed while tying the knot, or several other small factors that wouldn’t be noticeable with mono can all cause the fluoro to break at the knot. the fact that it was breaking right at the clip means the issue has something to do with the knot. Maybe try a different knot, or be sure to tie the uni very carefully with lots of lunrocation Response to trap as well but i do moisten when clinching it. I’ve only used uni knot and have never had an issue like this till switching to the Daiwa j fluoro 30lb. I actually like tying this more than what I’m used to because how thin it is makes it easier to loop and not waste as much line but now I’m afraid to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 Idk if it makes any of your opinions change or not but i uni knot to barrel swivel too but it’s only braking at the clip. The clip stays on the plug when it broke off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Hook Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) I use a clinch knot to my clip, 4 wraps no problems. 60 lb Edited May 31 by S Hook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrickstar Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 Guess I’m sticking to heavier line. Good thing i have a fresh spool sitting in my truck. Sucks though i really wanted to love the daiwa S Hook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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