UVF SALTIGA DURA SENSOR 8 + Si2 Braid from Japan

[Busanga]

Trying to decide between the 35lb (pe2) at .235mm and the 42lb (pe2.5) at .26mm both on 600m spool, Daiwa claim this braid is 300% more abrasive resistant than their normal braid..

Fishing for edibles around 15kg from beach/ surf using Stella SW 14000 and 15' Assasin Championship #5 casting 6oz lead plus bait with a 100lb braid leader wrapped once around spool, to avoid line break with powerful casts.

would get about 502m of 35lb aand about 454m of 42lb on the spool give or take

what would you choose. 

I cant buy other lines or spools sizes, these are my choices, one or other, no alternatives...  (b/c where i am and my immediate opportunity to get some line)

bear in mind this is Japanese line specced in pe, the breaking strain will be fairly accurate it is not like USA specs where 35lb would be about 50lb. they even spec the lbs in 35, 42 49 etc 

Edited May 28 by Busanga

[Mike Mendez]

Buy 1 of each... your Stella deserves the best!

[EricL]

Since you're in an area with not much choices.
 

You should buy bigger 2000m spools from a vendor in the US.   Almost all line brands here have big spools. And vendor can ship it to you.

 

Pe2 is 15lb test braid.
 

Getting 2000m is more worthwhile than the smaller spools from Japan.  At least you can fill up a few reels, and have line to spare for future use.

[Busanga]

27 mins ago, EricL said:

Since you're in an area with not much choices.
 

You should buy bigger 2000m spools from a vendor in the US.   Almost all line brands here have big spools. And vendor can ship it to you.

 

Pe2 is 15lb test braid.
 

Getting 2000m is more worthwhile than the smaller spools from Japan.  At least you can fill up a few reels, and have line to spare for future use.

Appreciate the advice, but i have someone coming from Japan and that is what he can get me in the given time. shipping braid from USA to Ghana costs more than the braid.

 

Pe 2 Braid is 40 plus lb breaking strain in 8 strand weave (attached chart) and also attached the chart for the Daiwa Braid which even Daiwa say is slightly thicker for a given lb breaking strain due to the abrasive resistant properties...

 

Am more interested in what those who do a lot of surf fishing (is new to me) would buy regarding the strength options i have...the 35 or the 42 , and given their respective thickneses and what i want to use it for.

Polyethylene PE Line Braided Line Chart .pdf Daiwa UVF Saltiga Dura Sensor 8Braid Si2 metered 2020 Lines.pdf

[EricL]

shipping to ghana is like $130 usd for a 6kg box.

i randomly used Lacom beach resort near labadi beach as a quote.

you can stuff like 3-4 big spools in it

not too bad i think. since you can 8000m of line

pe 2, 2.5, 3 , 4 , 5.  basically all your fishing needs in one shot.

Edited May 28 by EricL

[Busanga]

41 mins ago, EricL said:

shipping to ghana is like $130 usd for a 6kg box.

i randomly used Lacom beach resort near labadi beach as a quote.

you can stuff like 3-4 big spools in it

not too bad i think. since you can 8000m of line

pe 2, 2.5, 3 , 4 , 5.  basically all your fishing needs in one shot.

Which postal service did you use ? if you are using regular USPS it wont get here. Also we have huge duties on shipments, we pay duty on the goods and the shipping and port levies...  buy anyway that is not really the point...is just i have someone coming this week and those are my options for now, so looking for whch line most would use...i can look at getting other stuff later

 

FYI DHL for 6kg box to Ghana from USA is USD1000 (see attached)

Edited May 28 by Busanga

[EricL]

UPS or the US post office is cheapest. about 3-5 days.

 

but if the visitor is coming, get it then. saves on at least the shipping.

buy whatever big spools of line he can at a local tackle shop.

ysk gosen varivas daiwa shimano fireline, whatever is available.

theyll all work fine.

 

durability will always be limited by the thickness of the line. doesnt matter if its coated or not.

[Busanga]

i can show you an email conversation with JB Hollow braid...from two weeks ago . they sent me stuff USPS before i was able to tell them not to...it never arrived. i waited 30 days and they had to reimburse me...and i got someone to bring me out the items...

 

QUOTE:

JB Line One........

 

Hi >>>>>>. 

 

Yeah I had a feeling this would happen. I know Ghana..  I should have had you FedEx or DHL it. Is my fault. You weren't to know.

 

End Quote

 

i have been living  here all my life...i know what it takes to get things here...

 

Anyway, no worries. i will pick up the 35lb line as i think it will be fine for what i do and it will make most use of the 600m spool. Should be able to get over 500m on the Stella

Edited May 28 by Busanga

[Busanga]

i ordered stuff from USA about 2 months ago they sent it via USPS it never arrived, they had to re imburse me. It was my fault, they sent it before i told them not to, they should have sent it DHL or FedEx for it to have a chance of getting here. Any regular postal service will not arrive here. UPS, USPS Royal Mail etc etc

 

Anyway, no worries. i will pick up the 35lb line as i think it will be fine for what i do and it will make most use of the 600m spool. Should be able to get over 500m on the Stella

Edited May 28 by Busanga

[Busanga]

25 mins ago, EricL said:

UPS or the US post office is cheapest. about 3-5 days.

 

but if the visitor is coming, get it then. saves on at least the shipping.

buy whatever big spools of line he can at a local tackle shop.

ysk gosen varivas daiwa shimano fireline, whatever is available.

theyll all work fine.

 

durability will always be limited by the thickness of the line. doesnt matter if its coated or not.

Yes so back to original question...(whichever line he can get..... )  that is the 35lb or the 42lb 600m spool. is what he can get.... and my questuon is which of these two would you choose...

 

i am leanng to the 35lb as i thnk that will be strong enough for what i am doing and maybe cast further ?...but i am not experienced in beach surf fishing with bait for edibles (15kg)

Edited May 28 by Busanga

[EricL]

the stella 14k is a pe6 reel. so youre underclassing the line for surf use.

if youre only going to stick to one 14k spool.

id get pe 3 (30lb test) than pe2 since you can put on more drag to stop a fish from going too far sideways.

going any lower, youre not making full use of the reels drag power. itd be a waste of power and weight.

might as well get a 6000 instead to throw pe2.

 

on the 14k pe 3 will already by close to 600m in theory.  so a fill pe 2.5 ( will calculate to 700m) might be overkill.

 

thats ALOT of line for a surf reel. personally i dont even go over 400-500m for a surf reel.

pe3 will cast far enough with 6oz of lead. pe 2 will go a bit further. but you give up a higher break.

which is not worth if in case you hook up something big.

 

if it was me, id get spare spools to fit different line sizes instead.

8000 spool for the pe2. 10000 for pe3, 14000 for pe4. since it all fits on the body.

this would give me about 500m per spool.

then use whichever spool to match whatever youre targeting that day.

 

my personal heavy spinning bait setup is a catalina 5000H which is about ~10000 size.   with ~450m of line.

i use pe3 on it to throw upwards of 10oz.

I use it sparingly though since I use overheads more.

 

Edited May 28 by EricL

[Busanga]

Thanks for the info EricL. BTW just a heads up ,the new Stella SW 14k  is not interchangeable with the 8k but it is with the 10K. 

 

The 14k takes 315yds (288m) of powerpro 65lb which is 0.41mm dia

 

this means it will take about 0.41/0.235 x 288  which is 502m of 0.235mm dia line which is the diameter of the 35lb Dura sensor Daiwa 8x Braid

 

so with 35lb Dura sensor Braid i get 500m of braid on my stella so the 600m spool of 35lb is good to go

 

and i think 35lb is more than enough for the fish i am targeting

Edited May 28 by Busanga

[EricL]

I believe it needs to use the older 8000 spool to fit.

 

And I believe your line calculation is also bit off.

It's not calculated like that.  I'll just round up numbers to make a simple example.

 

In theory. Going from 0.41 to 0.24 needs approximately 875 meter needed to fill.

 

The formula goes like this. 0.41² x 300m = 50.43 (published stated capacity in volume)

 

50.43 / (0.24²)= 875 meter.

 

If you use 0.26mm line. And the formula. It's

 

50.43 / (0.26²)= 746

 

Even if you simply count down from the reel specs without doing any math at all.

 

Pe6 300.

Pe5 400.

Pe4 500

Pe3 600

Pe2.5 700

Pe2 800

Pe1.5 900

Etc etc.

 

Your 502m is way off.

[RandyBassinga]

I have been looking at this braid too, the PE1 and PE2. Let us know how it casts

[Busanga]

18 hours ago, EricL said:

I believe it needs to use the older 8000 spool to fit.

 

And I believe your line calculation is also bit off.

It's not calculated like that.  I'll just round up numbers to make a simple example.

 

In theory. Going from 0.41 to 0.24 needs approximately 875 meter needed to fill.

 

The formula goes like this. 0.41² x 300m = 50.43 (published stated capacity in volume)

 

50.43 / (0.24²)= 875 meter.

 

If you use 0.26mm line. And the formula. It's

 

50.43 / (0.26²)= 746

 

Even if you simply count down from the reel specs without doing any math at all.

 

Pe6 300.

Pe5 400.

Pe4 500

Pe3 600

Pe2.5 700

Pe2 800

Pe1.5 900

Etc etc.

 

Your 502m is way off.

Ah ok. Thanks for that Live and learn!. Have bought 600m of the 35lb so will add mono backing to it to fill the reel correctly. And thanks for the heads up on the old 8000 spool

Edited May 29 by Busanga