Father Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 (edited) I currently have a daiwa fuego LT 3000 on my lamiglass black inshore 7'6 and was looking to get a replacement or backup in a 4000 size. The fuego only weighs about 8oz so looking for something <10oz and has at least 35 IPT. I was looking at the sedona, sahara, and nasci but wanted to see if there were any other opinions. Thanks Edited May 4 by Father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popasilov Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 To have 35+ IPT in 4K range you will probably need 6+:1 gear ratio. I recently purchased Legalis 6K. It weights 11 oz and it has 36.2 " per turn. Legalis 5K weights 8.5 oz and it has 34.5" per turn. Those are in Fuego category (1 bearing less). It would be nice if Daiwa will make Fuego in 5K and/6K Bad day fishing is still much better than good day work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Posted May 4 Author Report Share Posted May 4 6 mins ago, Popasilov said: To have 35+ IPT in 4K range you will probably need 6+:1 gear ratio. I recently purchased Legalis 6K. It weights 11 oz and it has 36.2 " per turn. Legalis 5K weights 8.5 oz and it has 34.5" per turn. Those are in Fuego category (1 bearing less). It would be nice if Daiwa will make Fuego in 5K and/6K The Sedona, Sahara, and nasci are all 39 IPT. Sahara is about $30 cheaper than the other 2 but the other 2 seem to be worth the extra $30 based off materials. The Sahara and nasci are the same price but I’ve seen people say the nasci has better features so I’m wondering why shimano even bothered to make the Sahara Popasilov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricDice Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 7 hours ago, Father said: The Sedona, Sahara, and nasci are all 39 IPT. Sahara is about $30 cheaper than the other 2 but the other 2 seem to be worth the extra $30 based off materials. The Sahara and nasci are the same price but I’ve seen people say the nasci has better features so I’m wondering why shimano even bothered to make the Sahara Sahara & Nasci are the same reel just with added seals on the Nasci versus the other one. For SW use, the seals are worth the money. My Nasci FB got knocked over & fell into SW completely submerged sideways in its first year of operation and it’s still smooth as butter 8 seasons later. (Limited use the past few.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako capt Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 When it comes to inexpensive reels you just can't beat Shimano's inexpensive offerings. They hold up fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Posted May 4 Author Report Share Posted May 4 9 hours ago, EricDice said: Sahara & Nasci are the same reel just with added seals on the Nasci versus the other one. For SW use, the seals are worth the money. My Nasci FB got knocked over & fell into SW completely submerged sideways in its first year of operation and it’s still smooth as butter 8 seasons later. (Limited use the past few.) I just found out about the miravel as well, very similar specs but almost 3oz lighter too for an extra $30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertCatFish Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 (edited) OK What can you buy that is time tested and can't be beat? The Answer is either the Mitchell 302 or 402 SW reel. Anything under $100 is absolute JUNK!!! For a really GOOD reel today expect to pay in the range of $235 - $395. Sub $100?!? You *might* find some FRESH WATER reel in that price range, but if you want an honest to God SW reel, nothing can beat a Mitchel 302 /402. If you are very lucky you can still find them in EXCELLENT condition for under $100. Caveat Emptor: These are OLD reels and even if you can find one for $100 in EXCELLENT condition, it would pay a ton pull an entire strip down, and re-lube the the thing before it ever is fished. These reels are very EASY to DIY lube job all the way down to the frame. There is but *1* bearing compared to 7-12 bearings in today's reels. Someone without Parkinson's like I have, can tear a reel down to the ground ( ie. down to all the various pieces ) in about 15 minutes or less; cleaning the parts depends on what you find but I would say no more than 2 hours, to have every part looking factory clean; and a total rebuild in about 30 -45 minutes. Depending on the reel condition you actually buy in FleaBay can end up with an almost NEW looking reel, that has been properly lubed, and out fishes almost everything out there in the $100 and under price range. BTW unlike most of today's reels, the 302 and 402 hold a LOT of line: How about an entire 1/4 lb spool of 30 lb mono (440 yds) or 50 lb mono ( 265 yds)? Seriously do check out FleaBay and see what you can find for under $100 in Mitchell 302 and 402 reels. Then compare them with your NEW $100 and under reels made today. Then and only then buy the reel that makes sense. I suspect you will end up buying the Mitchell reel. Edited May 7 by BrianBM link, commercial website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricL Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 (edited) ^ it also feels like **** compared to a modern reel. get with the times. a brand new $40 Daiwa Laguna feels 100x better. i can buy 2.5 Lagunas and fish it 1,2,3,4 years for the Mitchell. just dont use it as a winch, and within reason and any reel can last a good time. Edited May 4 by EricL Popasilov and Jcallaham 1 1 i use 2/3 rule for trading. join date, posts, or vouch. whoever has less goes first. (*member formerly known as 'ooeric') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popasilov Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 On 5/4/2023 at 4:44 PM, DesertCatFish said: The Answer is either the Mitchell 302 or 402 SW reel. Anything under $100 is absolute JUNK!!! If you are looking that way, than nothing is better than old DAM Quick reels. Much more better than M302. As much as I love them I still prefer (and it feels nicer and better) to fish with today's reel. I love my old Luxor, it is a great reel and easy to maintenance tank, but I like my Legalis better. LB 1 Bad day fishing is still much better than good day work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 whatever you decide you should try in the bst first. might find a reel bargain.....see what i did there ? i kill myself "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishit 2 Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 I would go with a Penn 712z before buying any of the new disposable reels. All my Z series are from the ‘70’s and they all work fine, a little heavy but sturdy and easy to maintain. They will last forever as well Heavy Hooksetter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 On 5/4/2023 at 6:38 PM, Popasilov said: If you are looking that way, than nothing is better than old DAM Quick reels. Much more better than M302. As much as I love them I still prefer (and it feels nicer and better) to fish with today's reel. I love my old Luxor, it is a great reel and easy to maintenance tank, but I like my Legalis better. You're right with the DAM QUICK there light for there size, look for DAM QUICK 221N - 331N - 441N these are all high speed 5-1 ratio reels. l picked this up over the winter in Buffalo NY when l went to see my son, asking price $15 he took $10 a DAM QUICK 1400 5-1 ratio weighs 13.5oz loaded with line converted the reel to MPU added smoothy drags washers 30#PP line and made a new handle knob mounted on 8.5ft rod. iwantmypie, mark d, MAGA and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 damn nice LB "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popasilov Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2023 at 4:05 PM, LB said: I picked this up over the winter in Buffalo NY when l went to see my son, asking price $15 he took $10 a DAM QUICK 1400 5-1 ratio weighs 13.5oz loaded with line converted the reel to MPU added smoothy drags washers 30#PP line and made a new handle knob mounted on 8.5ft rod. That is a very nice LB Very, very nice. Bad day fishing is still much better than good day work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popasilov Posted May 5 Report Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2023 at 4:05 PM, LB said: You're right with the DAM QUICK I have few of those, LOL. Some waiting to be polished and some ready to go fishing. slicedcornbread 1 Bad day fishing is still much better than good day work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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