levari Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 18 hours ago, Water Dog said: For banging around the rocks and wading, I use a Century Kevlar N’oreaster with a ZB25. The SME serves as my open beach distance caster, which is why I’m considering replacing the VSX150 with a Certate 5K. As far as why pay so much for a single rod? I like nice things. I figure it’s no different than people spending almost $400 for a pair of VS pliers. Some can justify it, others cannot. To each their own…. It’s all good! I love spending money on fancy fishing stuff however rods break more often than reels.. There is no such a thing as user error when you break a reel. Visit the Century web site and you will see a list of multiple scenarios of rod breakage, not just slamming the rod in car doors. Risking over $1000 on a fishing rod is not for me..One of the breakage scenario in the list for a breakage is the fishing line wrapped around the tip before a cast. I lost few GRS plugs when I encountered this scenario casting plugs at night using my Legend rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyangler Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 14 mins ago, levari said: I love spending money on fancy fishing stuff however rods break more often than reels.. There is no such a thing as user error when you break a reel. Visit the Century web site and you will see a list of multiple scenarios of rod breakage, not just slamming the rod in car doors. Risking over $1000 on a fishing rod is not for me..One of the breakage scenario in the list for a breakage is the fishing line wrapped around the tip before a cast. I lost few GRS plugs when I encountered this scenario casting plugs at night using my Legend rod. Good points my friend and why do i feel like you are talking directly to me??? “No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.” - Victor Davis Hanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Dog Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 (edited) 18 mins ago, levari said: Risking over $1000 on a fishing rod is not for me… It’s all good man, do what works for you. If you’re prone to breaking stuff get a rod with a warranty that gives you peace of mind. Clearly that’s St. Croix for you. I haven’t broken a rod in over 25 years (user error), so I’m more than comfortable with my spending decisions. Like I said earlier… Some can justify it, others cannot. To each their own…. It’s all good! Edited March 28 by Water Dog levari and yogiiiboy 2 Hobie Power Skiff Fisherman Hobie Revolution 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striperswiper06437 Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 19 hours ago, Water Dog said: For banging around the rocks and wading, I use a Century Kevlar N’oreaster with a ZB25. The SME serves as my open beach distance caster, which is why I’m considering replacing the VSX150 with a Certate 5K. As far as why pay so much for a single rod? I like nice things. I figure it’s no different than people spending almost $400 for a pair of VS pliers. Some can justify it, others cannot. To each their own…. It’s all good! I don't do much open beach casting and distance is not a major concern of mine. I cannot toss an eel that far, yet somehow they catch fish. I also like nice things and own 2 pairs of VS pliers and 4 VS reels; so that certainly is not an issue. For $1200 I can get 3 GSB 132-1M rods built for me and those rods get the job done, are very durable, cast well, are generally light when built properly and will handle anything the New England surf scene can throw at it. chefhunter86 1 It all started last year during a terrible thunderstorm, when I locked myself out of the house. Shelving myself with a large piece of sheet metal, I ran for cover under the tallest tree I could find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Dog Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 At this level, we’re all nerdy gear heads in one form or another. BTW, I got my factory build brand new for $950 last fall. A full ODM Evolution build cones in at around the same ballpark. Speaking of light weight, mine comes in at a mere 11.03 oz, which is why my upgraded VSX150 balances so well on this 11 footer. yogiiiboy and Togatown 2 Hobie Power Skiff Fisherman Hobie Revolution 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levari Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, flyangler said: Good points my friend and why do i feel like you are talking directly to me??? Nah… You are not the common angler and you enjoy building your own rods.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levari Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 24 mins ago, Water Dog said: At this level, we’re all nerdy gear heads in one form or another. BTW, I got my factory build brand new for $950 last fall. A full ODM Evolution build cones in at around the same ballpark. Speaking of light weight, mine comes in at a mere 11.03 oz, which is why my upgraded VSX150 balances so well on this 11 footer. I just visited the ODM web site. A blank cost is $390 so how did you get the idea of same ball part? I am not an expert in rod building just curios.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisler Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 300 components, 300 labor and you got bingo FalmouthFisher, yogiiiboy and Rizz1877 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmouthFisher Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 47 mins ago, levari said: I just visited the ODM web site. A blank cost is $390 so how did you get the idea of same ball part? I am not an expert in rod building just curios.. Blanks only the starting point. Rod has lots of other parts to it and someone’s gotta put them all together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levari Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 4 mins ago, FalmouthFisher said: Blanks only the starting point. Rod has lots of other parts to it and someone’s gotta put them all together A very good point. The ODM evolution blanks are listed on ODM web site for $390. The SME elite blanks are listed on Century web site for $863. Same ballpark? R.R. Bridge Fisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmouthFisher Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 6 mins ago, levari said: A very good point. The ODM evolution blanks are listed on ODM web site for $390. The SME elite blanks are listed on Century web site for $863. Same ballpark? No, but that’s the whole point Water Dog was making that seems to have gone over your head. yogiiiboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Dog Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 (edited) Like I said, I was fortunate enough get my factory SME for $950 last fall. Christmas deals are a wonderful thing. So yes, for me, same ballpark. Edited March 28 by Water Dog yogiiiboy 1 Hobie Power Skiff Fisherman Hobie Revolution 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levari Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 14 mins ago, Water Dog said: Like I said, I was fortunate enough get my factory SME for $950 last fall. Christmas deals are a wonderful thing. So yes, for me, same ballpark. The pure math does not support you. Century SME Elite 11’3” blank $863 Century SME Elite rod -$1074 The difference is $211. ODM evolution 11’6” blank $390 ODM rod built with the same component as the SME elite: $390+$211= $601 $690 vs $950 far from being same ballpark.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmouthFisher Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 If you want to buy a similar length ODM Evolution with similar components you’ll be in the $900 range. Century probably discounts the blank when you buy a complete rod from them. They’re not stacking profit on a complete rod on top of profit on the blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Water Dog Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 (edited) 20 mins ago, levari said: The pure math does not support you. Century SME Elite 11’3” blank $863 Century SME Elite rod -$1074 The difference is $211. ODM evolution 11’6” blank $390 ODM rod built with the same component as the SME elite: $390+$211= $601 $690 vs $950 far from being same ballpark.. You’re very odd in the way you like to nit pick ad nauseam. Do you think a blank and premium components build themselves? Get a quote from Lou Caruso or any other reputable rod builder for a ODM Evolution build and get back to me… And I just looked back at my records.. I actually paid $910. My math is spot on. Edited March 28 by Water Dog TLap21 1 Hobie Power Skiff Fisherman Hobie Revolution 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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