Congressional Hearings on Wind Turbines

[squidder 329]

This  hearing occurred in New Jersey and it's a very disturbing and it effects your state as well.

The testimony starts at 35 mins.

 

 

[brushfly]

Thanks for posting this. Good to hear facts from those in the field. Mind blowing how this is all going down. 

[Steve H.C.]

I love it, when turbines are put in all the people who opposed them go and fish around them, after stating how damaging it would be for the fishery???? Interesting when the little people tow the line of big oil! Lets face it what are the alternatives, let the planet burn or do something about it. I have Grandkids and care about the future. 

Risk vs Reward.  Eff the politics!

[squidder 329]

Steve I agree but there are so many red flags that need to be investigated. EG if the area being served by the turbines only have that source of power without back power supply. The mills are rated to survive a cat 3 hurricane, are they over rating or under rating there resilience? Climate change says will experience more powerful storms and more frequent storms. With the mills being 90 miles offshore how long before power could be restored and at who's expense. In the video it was mentioned no one took responsibility or held accountable for removal of abandoned mills. So many unanswered questions in the video we need to research the mills thoroughly.

 

[RL Bucktails]

1 hour ago, Steve H.C. said:

I love it, when turbines are put in all the people who opposed them go and fish around them, after stating how damaging it would be for the fishery???? Interesting when the little people tow the line of big oil! Lets face it what are the alternatives, let the planet burn or do something about it. I have Grandkids and care about the future. 

Risk vs Reward.  Eff the politics!

Lol, the end in near.

[Rough]

Green energy was transformed from pariah to a darling once corporations were invited and took over about a decade and a half ago. All of a sudden, it was paraded and promoted by all mainstream media. Alas, the target of markets is profit, not the well-being of this planet. Methods and technologies promoted were not always the most efficient, to say the least, not to mention bad to non-existent long-term planning.

 

Moore’s take on this is pessimistic but not far from reality.

 

 

Edited March 18 by Rough

[Steve H.C.]

Yes, afraid to say it but I agree with the statement that "the end is near", if the regressive neanderthals still want  what was 1952. How about profit and well being working in the same direction.  What is the choice if they don't?

We are years behind because of the conflict of profit vs reality! As fisherman we are watching species dry up first hand and we still have trouble admitting climate change exists. WTF!

[Steve H.C.]

Watched Long Islanders bitch about the view of the turbines disrupting the "serenity" of the Jones beach ocean front when the turbines were to be beyond 14 miles, which is beyond the line of site on a clear day!  They don't bitch about the tankers and container ships sitting out there in full view waiting for commodity oil prices to rise before offloading. Counted eight full tankers anchored up at the height of the fuel oil purchase season. 

[Rough]

There’s another extremely dangerous side one needs to have in mind. Most of the mainstream criticism against green energy is generated by fossil fuel lobbyists and their political/ideological counterparts. Some of this is evident to the naked eye, some is not. Their ultimate goal is to further allow and further deregulate the activities of fossil fuel industry, continuing thus on the path of environmental destruction. It is one thing to argue for more planning and efficiency in transitioning to lower and zero emissions; it is an altogether different thing to use the problems of the transition in order to say we should tolerate corporate impunity and corruption.

[Nils S]

I've been involved in this mess for several years. I don't know of antis who are shilling for Big Oil, but I know that that's the word being spread by the pro-wind claque. No one at this point knows what's responsible for the statistically aberrant death of two dozen whales in NY/NJ over three months but the Murphy and Biden pro wind cheerleaders are claiming that because no one has shown that it definitely is the testing that's being done by the wind developers in the New York Bight that's responsible for killing the whales, it can't be the cause. That's like saying that if someone can't prove he or she is guilty of committing a murder that he or she must be guilty. Murphy's and Biden's reps are very much dependent on building well over a thousand biggest-ever generators off NY and NJ, none of which are in operation anywhere at this point, based on the completely unproven assumptions that they will have acceptable negative impacts on the coastal, inshore and offshore ecosystems. A whole bunch of people are demanding that adequate testing be done before the construction is begun. That's all. It hasn't been done yet. As far as I know, none of those people are working for Big-or Small-Oil though I wouldn't be surprised if some were.

(I just checked and 417 thousand people have signed onto the petition).

 

I've written three or four pieces on this. If you'd like copies send me a PM with your email address and I'll get 'em to you.      

[squidder 329]

50 mins ago, Nils S said:

 

(I just checked and 417 thousand people have signed onto the petition).

If you have a link to the petition I would appreciate it being posted. TY

 

[Nils S]

Squidder -

I don't know if posting links to "petition" sites is kosher here or not so I'll pm it to you. I'll check with the powers that be and if it's ok I'll post it here as well. 

[squidder 329]

Just now, Nils S said:

Squidder -

I don't know if posting links to "petition" sites is kosher here or not so I'll pm it to you. I'll check with the powers that be and if it's ok I'll post it here as well. 

That would be great, maybe I can "report" this post to bring it to an administrators attention.

[squidder 329]

Nils the link was blocked.

https://www.**********/p/pr . I reported the above post so we'll see what happens, either way thank you.

[Rough]

Salute to all who, honestly and not because of political affiliations, raise concerns about those turbines as well as other projects. My comment is not about NJ only, neither about Biden, Murphy, or the former president. It is about the need to do something about the environment and that this is not properly being addressed because corporate financial interests hide on either side of the debate. This is in my view the problem. Now, an ideologue is one who by default articulates and believes in a given system of ideas  without necessarily having any financial or other interests invested in it. And an ideology is so called because it serves some particular interests. Further, once the ideological narrative is out, ordinary people may honestly follow it without knowing the details and without discerning which objective interests it serves. This is why you get half a million signatures against the turbines, but you may also get half a million for them.

 

Now about politicians. They may be playing similar ideological roles, while honestly believing they serve the truth. They may also combine ideology with interests. When they are sometimes called corrupt, this is not because they directly take money and put them in their own pockets. Still, you need go no further than checking their campaign contributors to see the connections to big business. They do not need to be '‘shilling for the Big Oil” right now, but they may well be when they are out of office or may have already been in the past. If not Big Oil, it may be Big Pharma, and so on and so forth. Such examples are countless on all levels. Besides the term ‘lobbyism,’ there is also a term called ‘revolving doors of Washington” which everyone should have in mind. If not, then everyone should read more about it.

 

Thus, I am not going to talk about the Biden and Murphy ‘claque,’ implying that corruption is on the one side while on the other side there are genuine idealists. Sorry, I am not buying that. Corporate cancer has spread to stage four and this is bad for planet earth.

Edited March 19 by Rough