Tutti-Frutti Clouser

[C. Regalis]

A very minor question- but I'm curious. I've seen them hot pink over chartreuse and chartreuse over hot pink.

 

Same thing with "lemon - lime."

 

What's the original way? Or is it just personal preference?

 

(Yes, I know it doesn't matter to the fish.   )

[JonC]

One’s a tutti frutti the other is an electric chicken, don’t know which is which, I tie them both ways and call them all tutti fruttis.

JC

[Suave]

Good luck on your quest. See the thread "Tutti-Frutti Clousers: pink over chartreuse or the opposite?" started on September 14, 2021 on the Fly Fishing Forum.

[onthefly]

Electric chicken about 6 inches all synthetic used strug fuzzy fiber for head mullet shaped but I will use on musky. I think stripers might like but never tried that color combination for them 

[Suave]

I just did a Google search on "Tutti-Frutti fly patterns". Results: 

- no mention of who, and in relation to what fly pattern, originated this color scheme;

- the vast majority of fly patterns that come up (most offered by fly shops) are in a Clouser-type fly (Deep Minnow or Half and Half);

- and the vast majority of Tutti-Frutti flies coming up in this search are pink over green chartreuse.

 

Also there is no picture of any Tutti-Frutti flies nor did I find any mention of this color scheme in Bob Clouser's book "Clouser's Flies " (first edition, 2006).

 

[FlyFinaticLou]

12 hours ago, onthefly said:

Electric chicken about 6 inches all synthetic used strug fuzzy fiber for head mullet shaped but I will use on musky. I think stripers might like but never tried that color combination for them 

Very Nice indeed . . . May I suggest one add-on ?   Just behind the eye add one of those Cones with the holes - makes for some added noise and bubbles during retrieval  . . . !   I look forward to getting back into tying my own Salty Flies soon; it’s been way too long.   Just before my move to Florida (currently on the East end of the Panhandle), I’d been tying Trout streamers for “Trout Spey” techniques in the NW for my own use . . . Strictly amateur hour, ha ha. 

As I’m sure you and others are aware (this is for the few who may not) . . . Color CAN make a difference but it may have more to do with Light Conditions / Time of Day etcetera . . . !   The Type of Materials used in the FLY also can affect the effectiveness of the FLY!   Depth / Sunlight penetration can also alter what the fish “see”.   

 **?** Is it “cheating” to use a scent on a Fly ?   Now there’s a Can of Worms worthy of “de-Bait” ! ? .  Haaaa !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HillTop]

I've always thought of the Tutti Frutti fly as Pink on the top and Chartreuse on the bottom and always thought that the opposite colors where flies someone who made an "oops" and then it stuck so they had to make another name.     

 

HT

     

[C. Regalis]

Interesting... (mea culpa for not searching first, Pierre)...

 

Now that I think about it, Chris Windram offered them in chartreuse over pink ( and yes, Clousers) which was the first time I had seen the color scheme. So, I automatically assumed that was the correct format.

 

Never thought much about it til last Fall when a friend of mine handed me one. Pink on top.

 

For sure I can tell you albies will eat 'em. But just like chartreuse over white, I couldn't tell you why.

 

(My only guess us either it stands out among the naturals, or the colors filter differently as water depth and available light changes. Or both.)

[Suave]

And even Bonefish Dick had a Betsy aiming at being Tutti-Frutti but.... not quite making it. He called it the Betsy Frutti. Here it is as posted by HillTop on the "Babies Fist Betsy" thread started on the Fly Fishing Forum on March 7, 2020 (you'll find it on page 33 of the list of threads of that Forum).

 

Betsy Frutti

 

Actually HT posted on that thread picture of the original Betsy and many of its variants. And for those wanting to find more about the Betsy and it's "history", go to another thread on the Fly Fishing Forum "Bone Fish Dick-Please Tell" started on August 4, 2014 (you will find it on page 139 of the list).  

[C. Regalis]

18 hours ago, Suave said:

Good luck on your quest. See the thread "Tutti-Frutti Clousers: pink over chartreuse or the opposite?" started on September 14, 2021 on the Fly Fishing Forum.

Yep. I just reviewed that thread. The answer was "Yes".

[JonC]

Here’s a little more from a thread years ago.

JC

[C. Regalis]

Hmmm. I will admit I am guilty of underutilizing pink over white. (And I'm guessing its the deep hot pink they're talking about)

It must be January...

[Suave]

18 hours ago, C. Regalis said:

Hmmm. I will admit I am guilty of underutilizing pink over white. (And I'm guessing its the deep hot pink they're talking about)

It must be January...

Actually, in the case of Steve Schullery's Pink Wonder (he caught over 70 species on that pattern), the dressing calls for "light to medium pink bucktail". You will find the dressing and an sbs by Steve on the thread "Video for hook removal-and hook insertion!" started by Steve on the Fly Fishing Forum on April 25, 2017.

 

And a search on the Pink Wonder on SOL will bring you a lot more on this fly as well as Steve's views on the Tutti Frutti and Electric Chicken colors.

Edited January 28 by Suave
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[HillTop]

54 mins ago, Suave said:

Actually, in the case of Steve Schullery's Pink Wonder (he caught over 70 species on that pattern), the dressing calls for "light to medium pink bucktail". You will find the dressing and an sbs by Steve on the thread "Video for hook removal-and hook insertion!" started by Steve on the Fly Fishing Forum on April 25, 2017.

 

And a search on the Pink Wonder on SOL will bring you a lot more on this fly as well as Steve's views on the Tutti Frutti and Electric Chicken colors.

 

I had sent this in the past but in the event someone still might be interested I did speak with Steve some time ago and will send the attached as I'm sure he won't mind getting it again.  (Really appreciated Steve in the past, a really nice guy)  I agree I still haven't done as much as the Pink Wonder as I should have...... will this year   

 

HT

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JonC]

2 hours ago, Suave said:

Actually, in the case of Steve Schullery's Pink Wonder (he caught over 70 species on that pattern), the dressing calls for "light to medium pink bucktail". You will find the dressing and an sbs by Steve on the thread "Video for hook removal-and hook insertion!" started by Steve on the Fly Fishing Forum on April 25, 2017.

 

And a search on the Pink Wonder on SOL will bring you a lot more on this fly as well as Steve's views on the Tutti Frutti and Electric Chicken colors.

Steve likes pink bucktail in a shade that he described as the same as Danville’s pink thread.

JC