GearGuy Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Just wandering if anyone ever made some measurements about how many rpm a spool is reaching when making a cast with a baitcaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf bomber Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Supposedly any where from 10k to 30k rpm …I only read that I never measured it … and I don’t know what it takes to get the spool rotating that quickly … I don’t think my reels spin at 30k but it’s should be over 5k at the start … GearGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Always heard 20-50k GearGuy 1 Tis better to remain silent and thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBob Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 For the most part, at least 20k. yessokk and GearGuy 2 The only government I trust is the .45-70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcallaham Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Good question. Look at it this way, If the rpms are too slow the lure won't go very far. If the rpms are too fast the line will backlash. somewhere between zero and very very fast is all we need to know. GearGuy and BeachBob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 On 1/13/2023 at 6:57 AM, Jcallaham said: Good question. Look at it this way, If the rpms are too slow the lure won't go very far. If the rpms are too fast the line will backlash. somewhere between zero and very very fast is all we need to know. Ummm, a mild disagreement. What overfast RPMs and a backlash mean is that the caster was slow in thumbing the spool. Spool notes. Newell had some light spools made of graphite. If you thumbed the side of a graphite spool, it'd boil the skin off your thumb. There are reasons why some race car brakes are made of graphite. Aluminum spools are much, much friendlier, but I prefer to wet any line, mono or braid, with a few tentative casts before trying for distance. The extra yard or three that you might get from a graphite spool, with its' higher revolutions, aren't worth the enhanced risk of a tangled mess. YMMV if your coordination is better. Jcallaham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatWing Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 On 1/12/2023 at 2:15 PM, GearGuy said: Just wandering if anyone ever made some measurements about how many rpm a spool is reaching when making a cast with a baitcaster? How would you do it? Tough device to instrument with a tachometer drive gear. and the drag of the gear would significantly slow down the reel anyway, rendering the data mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatWing Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, BrianBM said: Ummm, a mild disagreement. What overfast RPMs and a backlash mean is that the caster was slow in thumbing the spool. Disagree, at least in the context of Long Casting with a modern set-up reel. A overfast spool means that the weight is not traveling at sufficint speed throughout the cast to keep the line leaving the spool with the desired "slight fluff". Weight velocity at release point is a direct result of the casters technique. Take a rod that is rated 6-16 oz and cast 4 ounces with it - very hard not to backlash the reel if the cast starts the reel at great velocity, because the lack of mass of the weight will cause it to lose that velocity quicker than the spool brakes will slow down the spool to allow for touching it only at the moment of impact. Try it sometime. I did. Edited September 20 by FlatWing BeachBob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf bomber Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 Backlash…. Such an ugly word… some folks may say professional backlash…. Lol lol lol …. Depending on the casters ability/ tackle/ juice( strength) will determine your backlash or lack of a backlash…. To cast a light lure with heavey tackle may lead to a professional backlash or a decrease in distance … if the castor is in synch with his/her tackle then they can cast most any weight but their will be limitations …knowing those limitations and how to overcome those limitations will let you catch more fish…when your walking the beech and your casting a3oz tin to fish that are 100 yds out ,then those fish are 20 yds out and you change to a 1oz tin do you want to run back to the truck for a lighter rod … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surf bomber Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 As previously posted 20k- 50k revs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otgman Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 6 hours ago, Surf bomber said: As previously posted 20k- 50k revs I think that 50k is an over exaggeration. A few years ago Colin Howlett & myself conducted some experiments with a modified ABU2500c that had an end plate that had sone electronics fitted inside, a special rotor was in the spool shaft. The set up measured a number of things, acceleration speed , max rpm and braking curve whilst cast a 18g competition plug. Max RPM. Recorded was 32k We used this information to help with our competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianBM Posted September 20 Report Share Posted September 20 Very interesting! Thank you. But is that a reel you would use for serious distance casting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBob Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 There are lots of scenarios and caveats with regards to revolving spool reels and distance. It will always come down to personal technique and tackle, and right there is a buncha uniqueness that makes it hard if not impossible to quantify and compare. Just go out and cast on the grass or water, for distance or fish, take yer pick, and have phun. The only government I trust is the .45-70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otgman Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 6 hours ago, BrianBM said: Very interesting! Thank you. But is that a reel you would use for serious distance casting? They are the reels that we use at the World Championships, so to answer your question - yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatWing Posted September 21 Report Share Posted September 21 On 9/20/2023 at 8:17 AM, Surf bomber said: Backlash…. Such an ugly word… some folks may say professional backlash…. Lol lol lol …. Depending on the casters ability/ tackle/ juice( strength) will determine your backlash or lack of a backlash…. To cast a light lure with heavey tackle may lead to a professional backlash or a decrease in distance … if the castor is in synch with his/her tackle then they can cast most any weight but their will be limitations …knowing those limitations and how to overcome those limitations will let you catch more fish…when your walking the beech and your casting a3oz tin to fish that are 100 yds out ,then those fish are 20 yds out and you change to a 1oz tin do you want to run back to the truck for a lighter rod … I cannot run anywhere anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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