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Never really fished poppers much due to the fact I had a hard time with them. Starting to try them again and was wondering what action rod guys who fish them a lot prefer. I know it's not the rod but the guy holding it but are you better with a slower action rod. What's the going opinion? Thanks

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Sorry, my first reply was based on you throwing poppers on spinning rods.  Didn't see that the post was in the FF section.

I agree with Thaistick on this one..

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Depends on the popper some are more wind resistant than others  big popper will cast easier with a fast rod and short stout leader also you don't want to cast a GT popper fly on a 8wt if you know what I'm saying. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mostly throwing on a 9 or 10 wt. Bangers and cupped faced poppers. For some reason I have a harder time with Bangers, maybe due to lighter weight. Don't really know if that makes sense. 

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Just my opinion.

Most rods are moderate fast or fast action these days.  I would spend more time thinking about the fly line.  I find that a general all purpose WF line or triangle taper line is not going to do the job as well as a Rio outbound short taper.  

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9 or 10wt should be able to handle a banger the reality is there are limits to it especially when wind is involved,you not going to throw it as far as a smaller / streamline fly ,one thing I forgot to mention is a tight loop and highline speed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mostly throwing on a 9 or 10 wt. Bangers and cupped faced poppers. For some reason I have a harder time with Bangers, maybe due to lighter weight. Don't really know if that makes sense. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, horsefly said:

Mostly throwing on a 9 or 10 wt. Bangers and cupped faced poppers. For some reason I have a harder time with Bangers, maybe due to lighter weight. Don't really know if that makes sense. 

As stiff a rod as I can muster;current fav is an 8' CTS 9wt w/ an 11wt butt.I want the rod to respond to every twitch and a soft rod soaks up a lot of action intended for the fly.I throw 6-10" flies w/ 5/8-3/4" faces on 4/0-7/0 hooks.An angled face makes more splash than flat or cupped (the latter is also inclined to dive under instead of pop) and is significantly easier than a flat or cup to cast.

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On 12/9/2022 at 9:01 AM, horsefly said:

Never really fished poppers much due to the fact I had a hard time with them. Starting to try them again and was wondering what action rod guys who fish them a lot prefer. I know it's not the rod but the guy holding it but are you better with a slower action rod. What's the going opinion? Thanks

Already an old thread, but my 2 cents add to the discussion would be:  

 

It's not about the fly rod so much as it is the fly line you choose & how that line behaves with a chosen fly rod.

 

Example: I have an old Sage RPL+ 10ft / 10wt fly rod. It's a manly beast of a fly rod. The fly rod is workable with 11wt WF fly line. Over time as I have tried out & used different fly lines on that fast 10wt Sage ... I came upon RIO Musky Fly line which has a relatively short 30 foot Triangle Taper type head. The RIO Musky 11wt. WF Floating line head weighs 450 grains. It loads the 10ft RPL+ 10wt fly rod with little effort and casts big flies & poppers as well or better than can be expected.

 

So depending on the fly rod used ... casting big bug poppers on a lake or large saltwater flies in a riptide ... ease of use depends as much on the fly line as it does with the rod.

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I am using a Beulah Opal 10 wt. (original version). Beulah states on their website to use a 9wt. Rio Short which I tried, and it just felt not so good. So, I am going to try a Wulf TT floating 10wt., which I have, and see if it feels better. Also, may try the Cortland Short 10. wt. Experimenting sometimes is fun. Thanks

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1 hour ago, horsefly said:

I am using a Beulah Opal 10 wt. (original version). Beulah states on their website to use a 9wt. Rio Short which I tried, and it just felt not so good. So, I am going to try a Wulf TT floating 10wt., which I have, and see if it feels better. Also, may try the Cortland Short 10. wt. Experimenting sometimes is fun. Thanks

I do prefer the Wulff Triangular Taper lines over all others ... but in their floating lines, I really like the Bass taper version in WF Floating. It's a little shorter with perhaps higher grain weight than the saltwater floating version.

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I am a surf fly rodder, I walk and carry my gear with no boat or beach buggy. I only carry one 8wgt or 7wgt rod with intermediate line and it does it all from Clousers to poppers so the answer is "whatever you fish put on a popper and learn how it works for you.

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Try a skagit line on your SH rod. It will turn over a chicken. I use a 450 grain head on a sage SP 9 wt.    money. 

 

Buddy gave the idea, and i can confirm it works. 

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I use an old sage RPLXi 9wt 2 piece for stripers most of the time and I make my own poppers.

WFF10wt SA line for poppers and an old SA 350 grain streamer express for getting down.

 

Couple poppers, the pic with 2 poppers the faces are cut off set so when stripped they go to the side some.

 

 

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