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Sinking Line Suggestions

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Been looking at the Rio OBS I/S3/S5 and the SA Sonar Triple Density in the same configuration for my 7wt. Anyone use either of these lines ? I absolutely love the way the OBS casts and I also have a SA Sonar Sink Tip S3 that casts equally as well. Im boat fishing and most casts are under 50' so those short head lines are perfect. The SA running line is INT where the RIO is floating so I'm assuming the SA line will sink a little better and in a straight line ? 

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18 mins ago, Surfinator said:

Been looking at the Rio OBS I/S3/S5 and the SA Sonar Triple Density in the same configuration for my 7wt. Anyone use either of these lines ? I absolutely love the way the OBS casts and I also have a SA Sonar Sink Tip S3 that casts equally as well. Im boat fishing and most casts are under 50' so those short head lines are perfect. The SA running line is INT where the RIO is floating so I'm assuming the SA line will sink a little better and in a straight line ? 

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if you strip with hand get biger size braid or you can use big game mono for main line.

they have sinking line T-8 to T-20 or more,you can order the T sinking line and make shooting head or sinking tip.

you can change only sinking tip or shooting head to reach defrent dept.

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2 hours ago, Surfinator said:

...The SA running line is INT where the RIO is floating so I'm assuming the SA line will sink a little better and in a straight line ? 

That is correct.  And it may only be a "little" better.  Most INT running lines are equivalent to 1-1.5 in/sec.  That's not particularly fast.  The INT running line will be pulled down more easily by the rest of the head than with a floating running line.  The tradeoff comes when or if you want to quickly get the head back to the surface for another shot.  It will be a bit harder to unplug the greater length of sunk line.  Usually this isn't an issue, especially if you are retrieving back all or most of the way to the boat. 

 

Check the total head length of both lines, also.  The OBS is 30ft, and the Sci Anglers is 33' or 35ft (check the box).  Personally, from a boat, I prefer a shorter head than from a beach especially if you only need to cast 50ft.  Much easier to get off a quick short shot with a 30ft (or less) head.  28ft of T material, as Snag suggests may also work well.  A mono running line will sink even faster than most int running lines. 

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12 mins ago, Killiefish said:

That is correct.  And it may only be a "little" better.  Most INT running lines are equivalent to 1-1.5 in/sec.  That's not particularly fast.

Thats a good point. I do like the floating running line on the SA Sonar. Like you said makes it a lot easier to lift the line off the water. Even when stripping most of it in it still is easier. 

 

14 mins ago, Killiefish said:

I prefer a shorter head than from a beach especially if you only need to cast 50ft.  Much easier to get off a quick short shot with a 30ft (or less) head.

Agreed. After trying several lines the 30' heads are much easier in the boat than the 40'. And most casts are 50' and under for me.

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I’ve got the SA Sonar Triple Density line in the sink 3-5-7 configuration. I’ve been using it for a few weeks from shore and boat and it’s become my favorite sinking line at the moment. The head is sub 40 in length and I find that it is capable of getting off a quick shot when needed and the preferred line for my albie rigs. Highly recommended!

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21 mins ago, StriperKim said:

I’ve got the SA Sonar Triple Density line in the sink 3-5-7 configuration. I’ve been using it for a few weeks from shore and boat and it’s become my favorite sinking line at the moment. The head is sub 40 in length and I find that it is capable of getting off a quick shot when needed and the preferred line for my albie rigs. Highly recommended!

Did you get a line size heavier or do you have what's rated for your rod?

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55 mins ago, Surfinator said:

Did you get a line size heavier or do you have what's rated for your rod?

I have the line for a 10 Wt T&T Sextant and I went down a size with the 365 in the 9WT. I don’t really like the overweighted heads for this rod or the Exocett I have in the same size. Hope this helps.

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Posted (edited)

Royal Wulff Full Sink fly line. Sinks 4-6 inch/sec.

Used 'um for more than 25 years professionally day in day out, so durable.

Why change when it works for me and clients.

 

These stripers were caught today, October 8th on the very same line, 9 wgt. on an 8 wgt. Sage Salt Fly Rod.

 

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Edited by Capt.Castafly

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Nice looking fish there! 

 

BTW to the OP, I think of the two lines you have, I'd use the Rio OBS (30ft head) from boat, and the Sci Anglers (33.5ft head) from shore.  I believe that the running line of both could be int, depending on the box info of your specific line.

 

Rio OBS I/S3/S5:

 

"An Intermediate sinking line with 17ft of Medium Sinking line, then 13ft of Fast Sinking Line at the front (I/S3/S5), for fishing 4-8ft deep"

 

I believe this is very likely a coldwater line. 

 

vs: Sci Anglers Sonar Triple Density:

 

The diagram on the Scientific Anglers site and the table shows that all lines in this series (regardless of weight) are 33.5' heads.  This is labeled as a warmwater line.  It also says the running line is INT, but on one I have the running line is floating.  It's the handling section of the line that is INT.

 

Even though they have the same designation (I/S3/S5) the two lines may behave differently, but your best bet is to try them both out and see.  YMMV.

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I just bought the scientific angler line for a 10 wt rod and I matched it with a 10 wt line. Been using it from shore, it loads the rod nice and quick.  It cast very nicely and when my hauls are good it casts great. I’m no great caster so it does come out and tangles on occasion but those are my demons to deal with.  Others may not have that issue, but I do shoot a lot more line with it then I do with my intermediate line.  I’m not fishing really deep water but the whole line does gets down pretty quickly. I mainly bought it for those windy days when I would normally not go out.  I’m so far happy with it. 

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1 hour ago, Killiefish said:

 It also says the running line is INT, but on one I have the running line is floating.  It's the handling section of the line that is INT.

Thats interesting..I don't think SA mentions that in the description..unless I missed it. I know the SA Sink Tip I have has a floating running line and its very easy to pull it off the water 

 

1 hour ago, Killiefish said:

think of the two lines you have, I'd use the Rio OBS (30ft head) from boat

Thats what I was thinking as well. I know the floater I have works great

 

1 hour ago, Killiefish said:

but your best bet is to try them both out and see.

Yea I agree. at 99$ a pop it gets expensive though lol

 

38 mins ago, Mark L said:

I’m not fishing really deep water but the whole line does gets down pretty quickly.

thats what Im looking for..something to get down quicker in the stronger currents.

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On 10/8/2022 at 9:40 PM, StriperKim said:

I have the line for a 10 Wt T&T Sextant and I went down a size with the 365 in the 9WT. I don’t really like the overweighted heads for this rod or the Exocett I have in the same size. Hope this helps.

 

SK,

What  model Exocett do you use and what line are you happy using on it? 

Thanks!

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At half the cost of the SA and RIO tri-density lines (in the UK), the Airflo Sniper Type 7 works fine for me, and the running line behaves most of the time. 

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Thanks for all the suggestions..I was able to try a friends OBS and its perfect for what I need. Really casts nice with hardly any effort. 

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23 hours ago, yarddog59 said:

 

SK,

What  model Exocett do you use and what line are you happy using on it? 

Thanks!

I have the Exocett in the 9 ft 10 wt configuration. I use the Airflo Cold intermediate and floating line in a 10Wt and it’s great on that rod.

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