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7 mins ago, EBHarvey said:

Watch, they won't suffer the embarassment of finding nothing.  

of course not.

 

they do this **** for the low IQ people.  throw this **** out there and let them believe it.

 

like Rush said...... the drive by media.

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1 hour ago, Markushook said:

Not an official document? 
 

Tell us why it’s not even close

Who knows what Pelosi used as a stupid prop.  Most likely a copy of the idiots speech.  Not    even    close

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1 hour ago, nalu22 said:

Kash article, links aren't allowed but you search for the article.

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Doesn't even matter if the documents that the National Archive has asked be returned are classified or not.  

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1 min ago, KnewBee said:

 

Doesn't even matter if the documents that the National Archive has asked be returned are classified or not.  

Documents may be removed or even destroyed if the removal is authorized.

The ultimate authorization rest with the president.

While they may need to be returned, it's no longer a criminal matter.

 

BTW, the law regarding Presidential records also applies to the VP.

Except, the VP has no authority to delete or remove records.

The law includes emails, notes, phone messages, and texts.

Do you think Joe turned all those emails, texts, phone messages he made to Hunter over to the National Archives?

 

It's very unlikely that Trump had any personal involvement in moving the documents to Mar Largo.

Much more likely, a staff member simply boxed up a pile of material and sent to Mar Largo for future sorting.

So even if the removal was illegal.

You would have to prove Trump personally selected each document in question and ordered it shipped.

That could only happen in DC where the jury verdict is predetermined.

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, BrianBM said:

That ends all discussion, of course. Commies, commies everywhere.

 

Speaking of using the military or law enforcement to frustrate an election, do you consider the nine investigations of Benghazi to have been normal - especially since Speaker McCarthy, in a weird moment of candor, said the last ones' only real purpose was to complicate Hillary's anticipated run for the White House? Or candidate Trump's leading chants of "Lock her up! Lock her up!" to be evidence of Trump's communistic tendencies? Or President TRump's attempts to have DHS seize voting machines to be further evidence of Marxist thinking? Or his attempts to use martial law (Rudy was big on that one) to pre-empt the last Presidential election?

 

More proof of Republican communism?

 

 

Poor Hillary 

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4 mins ago, Steve_in_PA said:

Documents may be removed or even destroyed if the removal is authorized.

The ultimate authorization rest with the president.

While they may need to be returned, it's no longer a criminal matter.

 

BTW, the law regarding Presidential records also applies to the VP.

Except, the VP has no authority to delete or remove records.

The law includes emails, notes, phone messages, and texts.

Do you think Joe turned all those emails, texts, phone messages he made to Hunter over to the National Archives?

 

It's very unlikely that Trump had any personal involvement in moving the documents to Mar Largo.

Much more likely, a staff member simply boxed up a pile of material and sent to Mar Largo for future sorting.

So even if the removal was illegal.

You would have to prove Trump personally selected each document in question and ordered it shipped.

That could only happen in DC where the jury verdict is predetermined.

 

 

 

Nope.

 

44 U.S. Code § 2203 - Management and custody of Presidential records

U.S. Code

(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President’s staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately.

(c) During the President’s term of office, the President may dispose of those Presidential records of such President that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value if—(1)

the President obtains the views, in writing, of the Archivist concerning the proposed disposal of such Presidential records; and

(2) the Archivist states that the Archivist does not intend to take any action under subsection (e) of this section.

(d) In the event the Archivist notifies the President under subsection (c) that the Archivist does intend to take action under subsection (e), the President may dispose of such Presidential records if copies of the disposal schedule are submitted to the appropriate Congressional Committees at least 60 calendar days of continuous session of Congress in advance of the proposed disposal date. For the purpose of this section, continuity of session is broken only by an adjournment of Congress sine die, and the days on which either House is not in session because of an adjournment of more than three days to a day certain are excluded in the computation of the days in which Congress is in continuous session.

(e)The Archivist shall request the advice of the Committee on Rules and Administration and the Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate and the Committee on House Oversight and the Committee on Government Operations of the House of Representatives with respect to any proposed disposal of Presidential records whenever the Archivist considers that—(1)

these particular records may be of special interest to the Congress; or

(2) consultation with the Congress regarding the disposal of these particular records is in the public interest.

(f) During a President’s term of office, the Archivist may maintain and preserve Presidential records on behalf of the President, including records in digital or electronic form. The President shall remain exclusively responsible for custody, control, and access to such Presidential records. The Archivist may not disclose any such records, except under direction of the President, until the conclusion of a President’s term of office, if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, or such other period provided for under section 2204 of this title.

(g)(1)

Upon the conclusion of a President’s term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President. The Archivist shall have an affirmative duty to make such records available to the public as rapidly and completely as possible consistent with the provisions of this chapter.

(2)

The Archivist shall deposit all such Presidential records in a Presidential archival depository or another archival facility operated by the United States. The Archivist is authorized to designate, after consultation with the former President, a director at each depository or facility, who shall be responsible for the care and preservation of such records.

(3)

When the President considers it practicable and in the public interest, the President shall include in the President’s budget transmitted to Congress, for each fiscal year in which the term of office of the President will expire, such funds as may be necessary for carrying out the authorities of this subsection.

(4)

The Archivist is authorized to dispose of such Presidential records which the Archivist has appraised and determined to have insufficient administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value to warrant their continued preservation. Notice of such disposal shall be published in the Federal Register at least 60 days in advance of the proposed disposal date. Publication of such notice shall constitute a final agency action for purposes of review under chapter 7 of title 5, United States Code.

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16 hours ago, Joe said:

So, the multiple investigations into Hillary never happened?

Were those investigations anything like the  the ones they conducted for voter fraud 

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9 mins ago, Steve_in_PA said:

Documents may be removed or even destroyed if the removal is authorized.

The ultimate authorization rest with the president.

While they may need to be returned, it's no longer a criminal matter.

 

BTW, the law regarding Presidential records also applies to the VP.

Except, the VP has no authority to delete or remove records.

The law includes emails, notes, phone messages, and texts.

Do you think Joe turned all those emails, texts, phone messages he made to Hunter over to the National Archives?

 

It's very unlikely that Trump had any personal involvement in moving the documents to Mar Largo.

Much more likely, a staff member simply boxed up a pile of material and sent to Mar Largo for future sorting.

So even if the removal was illegal.

You would have to prove Trump personally selected each document in question and ordered it shipped.

That could only happen in DC where the jury verdict is predetermined.

 

 

 

Certainly not worthy of a raid.

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6 mins ago, KnewBee said:

Nope.

 

44 U.S. Code § 2203 - Management and custody of Presidential records

U.S. Code

(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of the President’s constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are preserved and maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

(b) Documentary materials produced or received by the President, the President’s staff, or units or individuals in the Executive Office of the President the function of which is to advise or assist the President, shall, to the extent practicable, be categorized as Presidential records or personal records upon their creation or receipt and be filed separately.

(c) During the President’s term of office, the President may dispose of those Presidential records of such President that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value if—(1)

the President obtains the views, in writing, of the Archivist concerning the proposed disposal of such Presidential records; and

(2) the Archivist states that the Archivist does not intend to take any action under subsection (e) of this section.

(d) In the event the Archivist notifies the President under subsection (c) that the Archivist does intend to take action under subsection (e), the President may dispose of such Presidential records if copies of the disposal schedule are submitted to the appropriate Congressional Committees at least 60 calendar days of continuous session of Congress in advance of the proposed disposal date. For the purpose of this section, continuity of session is broken only by an adjournment of Congress sine die, and the days on which either House is not in session because of an adjournment of more than three days to a day certain are excluded in the computation of the days in which Congress is in continuous session.

(e)The Archivist shall request the advice of the Committee on Rules and Administration and the Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate and the Committee on House Oversight and the Committee on Government Operations of the House of Representatives with respect to any proposed disposal of Presidential records whenever the Archivist considers that—(1)

these particular records may be of special interest to the Congress; or

(2) consultation with the Congress regarding the disposal of these particular records is in the public interest.

(f) During a President’s term of office, the Archivist may maintain and preserve Presidential records on behalf of the President, including records in digital or electronic form. The President shall remain exclusively responsible for custody, control, and access to such Presidential records. The Archivist may not disclose any such records, except under direction of the President, until the conclusion of a President’s term of office, if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, or such other period provided for under section 2204 of this title.

(g)(1)

Upon the conclusion of a President’s term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President. The Archivist shall have an affirmative duty to make such records available to the public as rapidly and completely as possible consistent with the provisions of this chapter.

(2)

The Archivist shall deposit all such Presidential records in a Presidential archival depository or another archival facility operated by the United States. The Archivist is authorized to designate, after consultation with the former President, a director at each depository or facility, who shall be responsible for the care and preservation of such records.

(3)

When the President considers it practicable and in the public interest, the President shall include in the President’s budget transmitted to Congress, for each fiscal year in which the term of office of the President will expire, such funds as may be necessary for carrying out the authorities of this subsection.

(4)

The Archivist is authorized to dispose of such Presidential records which the Archivist has appraised and determined to have insufficient administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value to warrant their continued preservation. Notice of such disposal shall be published in the Federal Register at least 60 days in advance of the proposed disposal date. Publication of such notice shall constitute a final agency action for purposes of review under chapter 7 of title 5, United States Code.

let's raid Twitter's properties.

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Just now, eddy said:

let's raid Twitter's properties.

Let me know how that works out.  

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2 mins ago, Dogfish Between Jetties said:

Certainly not worthy of a raid.

Almost identical to retrieving Hillary's server with real classified documents.

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3 hours ago, EBHarvey said:

Zak, your posts regarding Garland are a complete crock of ****, and you know it.

 

You should have just admitted you were wrong.  An honest man would have.

These kind of posts, opinions about someone's posts, are personal - they aren't administrative - and they don't belong in here any longer. You can discuss the topic, you as an administrator can make administrative posts about posting guidelines - but posts that are entirely opinion about another member and their posts are not welcome.

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9 mins ago, KnewBee said:

Let me know how that works out.  

they still have Drumpf's tweets?

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8 mins ago, TimS said:

These kind of posts, opinions about someone's posts, are personal - they aren't administrative - and they don't belong in here any longer. You can discuss the topic, you as an administrator can make administrative posts about posting guidelines - but posts that are entirely opinion about another member and their posts are not welcome.

Zak can lie and we have to accept it as truth?

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