Simms acquired by Vista Outdoors

[JKingston]

On 9/5/2022 at 10:37 AM, ifsteve said:

Environmentalists are not conservationists

 Dang .. ur right 
 

 

Edited September 8, 2022 by JKingston

[ifsteve]

So tell me JR

 

Do you have experience in the environmental arena?

How much have you interacted with the EPA and USFWS?

 

In my experience my interactions have shown a fundamental difference between an environmentalist and a conservationist. Both of them are interested in protecting natural resources. The former to totality. The later to one of intelligent useage.

 

As an example, an environmentalist pushes for the closure of sensitive areas of the FL keys. A conservationist pushes to have special restrictions such as no motor zones. Of course any time you use labels there are always those that fall outside the label. But in my years working in environmental the two terms, out in the real world, are not the same regardless of what the dictionary says.

[John350]

You do realize that cutting costs leveraging buying power and synergies within the back office, corporate staff and sales team does not mean a reduction in quality.  I guess some just enjoy finding the negative story line

[acesover]

Just saw a story that said the owner of Patagonia is giving ALL the profits to help climate change

[phishallways]

11 mins ago, acesover said:

Just saw a story that said the owner of Patagonia is giving ALL the profits to help climate change

He’s giving away the company (98%).

[ifsteve]

On 9/12/2022 at 10:22 PM, John350 said:

You do realize that cutting costs leveraging buying power and synergies within the back office, corporate staff and sales team does not mean a reduction in quality.  I guess some just enjoy finding the negative story line

Sounds so nice, just like a marketing executive line. Time will tell but real world experiences with this kind of thing rarely work out well for the consumer. Look no further than the combining of Bass Pro and Cabelas. Exact same story line was made.

[Mike Oliver]

What happened to Bass Pro and Cabellas when that happened.

[Kones1]

Quality/value usually suffers. There is poor quality , a bit better quality with no support , better quality with some support , best quality with good support and the best of the best with full support  , rare though.  In my opinion almost all products can line up this way. 

[Kones1]

Cabelas and LL Bean had the best return policies in the business , until it was abused. People suck

[Kones1]

I have a 3 speed inner hub shift 1972 step through in great shape built by Vista. It's called a Vista Dutchess and was made on Long Island.  They have been around awhile   From Long Island   

[ifsteve]

On 9/19/2022 at 2:31 AM, Mike Oliver said:

What happened to Bass Pro and Cabellas when that happened.

Quality took a pretty good drop at Cabelas IMO. Can't speak to Bass Pro because I don't frequent there.