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Van Staal VR50 Schematics

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1 hour ago, LB said:

Yep, now l remembers the clicker l did some services on the VR50 reels, so what spring are you changing? the one that is showing in the pic. that looks like a bow tie?

Play with it but from what l see there's not much you could do with the way it's made to get the sound you're looking for, that pin clicker is always riding on the teeth if you know that in mean.

 

l have seen this clicker before but l can remember on what reel, simple and it sound good.

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Do you have this clicker? if so try mounting it on the spool and see what the sound would sound like or make one.

Yea the bow tie looking clicker on the VR50, i did not like it from the beginning, the one piece clicker in the picture is from a penn 420ss i have a upgraded one that i use for light spinnfishing, i also have a 430ss that i use for spare parts for the 420ss incase i need them.

 

The Penn 420ss clicker was just for reference, im gonna make one that works like that, i would use it but i need to make one that has the tab for the screw on the same side as the bend arm so i just able to place it under that existing block that holds the original clicker rod and the spring that presses it against the teeth.

Just so i dont need to shorten screws and stuff like that.

 

I already tried adjusting it a bit as soon as i got the vr50 but there is no good middle ground, its eighter normal sounding and makes the drag feel sticky and jerky or its really really quiet and doesnt affect the drag.

 

I really want to be able to hear my clicker on the water its pretty important to me besides that hearing a  screaming run is always amazing and i dont want to miss that, but i also dont want a clicker that affects the drag in a really bad way, i have no idea why van staal went with this design, its pretty bad, its the worst clicker i have ever seen on a spinning reel.

 

So i will just have to make my own which is not a problem if i get the materials i need for it, i just gonna have to try different materials and thickness and see how they sound, im just gonna start out with feeler gauge steel since i have them in a lot of different gauges.

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2 hours ago, Julian. said:

penn 420ss i have a upgraded one that i use for light spin fishing, l also have a 430ss that i use for spare parts for the 420ss incase i need them.

You should flip that around Penn 430 as the main reel and 420 for parts, l still have my Penn 714 and Penn 430 from the early 70s that l bought new still have the box's, l did some mod. to them without destroying any parts, these or reels that did over the winter to keep me busy.

Before Mods.

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Rest of the reel and there's more.20220726_140718.jpg.3a6129c1b3136c983b7f7e6594be0103.jpg20220726_141052.jpg.0632d519ef91506e1abe9b52c256dde2.jpg20220726_140752.jpg.fb367e7a45296893e50783d4eb5911a3.jpg20220726_141602.jpg.99ea2805dfb3b9e305be76b756a6d2ce.jpg20220726_141920.jpg.46dcbb7870b512e3d30f3156d0d64f1d.jpg20220726_142203.jpg.1e5f21c35fc33238c5356d9f13b2ff8a.jpg

And there are others like DAM QUICK reels and other great reel.

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12 hours ago, LB said:

You should flip that around Penn 430 as the main reel and 420 for parts, l still have my Penn 714 and Penn 430 from the early 70s that l bought new still have the box's, l did some mod. to them without destroying any parts, these or reels that did over the winter to keep me busy.

Before Mods.

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After Mod.20220726_140837.jpg.1fbdadbd27ca41732cf7ae66a51b5254.jpg

Rest of the reel and there's more.20220726_140718.jpg.3a6129c1b3136c983b7f7e6594be0103.jpg20220726_141052.jpg.0632d519ef91506e1abe9b52c256dde2.jpg20220726_140752.jpg.fb367e7a45296893e50783d4eb5911a3.jpg20220726_141602.jpg.99ea2805dfb3b9e305be76b756a6d2ce.jpg20220726_141920.jpg.46dcbb7870b512e3d30f3156d0d64f1d.jpg20220726_142203.jpg.1e5f21c35fc33238c5356d9f13b2ff8a.jpg

And there are others like DAM QUICK reels and other great reel.

Your reels are very pretty, i dont really have a use for the 430ss, i got it for real cheap just for spare parts, its also not in great codition with a lot of scratches and paint chips.

 

I live in austria and i dont really do surf fishing, i would have to go to italy but then i could also drive a little further to croatia and do some rockfishing/spinning and light shore jigging there, i would use it for ultralight rockfishing because it holds a shitload of of braid and if i hook something a little bigger like a 2kg+ false albacore or leerfish, right now its just for perch, trout, small pikes and stuff like that.

 

For anything bigger and medium spinnfishing i have the VR50, i also have some nice 3000 and 2500 size shimanos for everything in between like one of the older vanquish F reels, a stradic and a rarenium ci4 when i want a really lightweight setup.

 

The line roller on your 430ss look like some from the newer versions, i use a complete bail from a 420ssg that fits perfectly.

 

I also put my favourtite shimano eva handle knob on it with a matching gold sidecover which looks really nice.

 

The last upfades where a sealed main bearing and a drag washer i made from carbontex drag material.

 

I basicly wanted a indestructable ultra light reel with a high line capacity that would not have a problem with bigger fish.

 

 

 

 

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So, you're from down under as thy say in the USA, welcome aboard you will find a lot of good info on SOL. l to like the older Shimanos F series reels l have 4 reels 4500 5000 size. along with other makes,

l do mods reel mods to keep myself busy plus bild my own rod if l need one, also make my own lures plug tins & bucktails.

Do you live close to the coastline?

Fishing is kind of slow around this time of year from the surf by end of next month it shold pick up, 

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