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Should Men have to pay?

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On 7/1/2022 at 7:14 AM, oax said:
On 6/30/2022 at 10:11 PM, Ladyfish said:

Federal funds paid to PP are primarily for women's health care and does include contraceptives, treatment for sexually transmitted diseases and other gynecological check-ups and procedures. 

 

Not true.  

Yes, it is. Look it up yourself.

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Who knew?

In a recent child support census, 57% of moms required to pay child support, 385,000 women out of a total 674,000 provide some sort of payments on the support owed. This leaves 289,000 “deadbeat mothers” not paying any support. In comparison, the census showed that 68% of dads pay something toward child support. In addition, the census did show that men in general pay more court ordered support than women. On average, custodial mothers get 60% of what they are owed in support while custodial fathers only get 48%.

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On 7/1/2022 at 9:21 AM, HugeDinghy said:

So no follow up on the easy way out. 

There is no easy way out!    

Based on US Census numbers:

More than 25% of US women live in poverty. More than 30% of US children live in poverty. Poverty level for a single person is approximately $13K per year. The programs that currently exist to assist families are outdated and have not kept pace with increased costs. Mothers with small children do not have access to child care  and therefore have difficulty holding jobs. 

 

 

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35 mins ago, Reed422 said:

Who knew?

In a recent child support census, 57% of moms required to pay child support, 385,000 women out of a total 674,000 provide some sort of payments on the support owed. This leaves 289,000 “deadbeat mothers” not paying any support. In comparison, the census showed that 68% of dads pay something toward child support. In addition, the census did show that men in general pay more court ordered support than women. On average, custodial mothers get 60% of what they are owed in support while custodial fathers only get 48%.

Men generally pay more because they typically have greater income. Historically, mothers had to be home to take care of the children. While today's Mom's are more likely to work, child care in the US is expensive.
 
Actually small numbers when compared to the number of children in divorced families. 
Also from the United States Census Bureau in 2020, based on data from 2017 to 2018, the percentage of custodial fathers in the US increased from 16% in 1994 to 17.5% in 2014, and then to 20.1% in 2018. 
 
So the number of custodial fathers is approximately 20% of the total US adult male population. 
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3 hours ago, Ladyfish said:

There is no easy way out!    

Based on US Census numbers:

More than 25% of US women live in poverty. More than 30% of US children live in poverty. Poverty level for a single person is approximately $13K per year. The programs that currently exist to assist families are outdated and have not kept pace with increased costs. Mothers with small children do not have access to child care  and therefore have difficulty holding jobs. 

 

 

Poor people get free daycare. And medical. 

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4 mins ago, HugeDinghy said:

Poor people get free daycare. And medical. 

and phones; and bus chits to get around; and DIC; EBT; etc.  Too lazy to go look it up but the consensus was (at least a few years ago) that the freebies add up to about 45K per year.   

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4 hours ago, Ladyfish said:

The programs that currently exist to assist families are outdated

 

Should be phased out.  Its was a failed experiment.  Aid and assistance should be charity based, not guaranteed.  It doesnt work as evidenced by the ballooning numbers and generational assistance families.

 

Phase it out.  All of it. 

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16 mins ago, JimP said:

and phones; and bus chits to get around; and DIC; EBT; etc.  Too lazy to go look it up but the consensus was (at least a few years ago) that the freebies add up to about 45K per year.   

 

Dependent upon exact community, but around here its Just under 60k if you include sec8 and local school assistances. 

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4 hours ago, Ladyfish said:
Men generally pay more because they typically have greater income. Historically, mothers had to be home to take care of the children. While today's Mom's are more likely to work, child care in the US is expensive.
 
Actually small numbers when compared to the number of children in divorced families. 
Also from the United States Census Bureau in 2020, based on data from 2017 to 2018, the percentage of custodial fathers in the US increased from 16% in 1994 to 17.5% in 2014, and then to 20.1% in 2018. 
 
So the number of custodial fathers is approximately 20% of the total US adult male population. 

 

You are misinterpreting the data that he/she posted.  Support-paying moms shirk their duty and are "deadbeats" at a higher rate than supprt-paying dads.  

 

That there are simply more men in that situation is accurate, as you stated.   

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34 mins ago, 55555s said:

 

You are misinterpreting the data that he/she posted.  Support-paying moms shirk their duty and are "deadbeats" at a higher rate than supprt-paying dads.  

 

That there are simply more men in that situation is accurate, as you stated.   

He.

 

ya that was the point. Out of those that are supposed to pay child support, there are a higher percentage of deadbeat mothers by a lot. 


 

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