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So, after playing with some hand twisted furhled leaders in finally made a jig to make some bettwr tapered ones, but that got me to thinking. When making them from mono or flourocarbon, how thick should I go? I had some 8lb flouro that seemed to work well, but I wonder if it would be better too go with more wraps of a thinner thread, or less of a thicker ones, and for general saltwater fishing how thick do I realistically need to go?

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I use 20# fluro.

Depending on manufacturer - 0.014 - 0,015"

The seaguar gold fluro is 014 but seems thinner.

Herb

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7 hours ago, HL said:

I use 20# fluro.

Depending on manufacturer - 0.014 - 0,015"

The seaguar gold fluro is 014 but seems thinner.

Herb

What weight rods do you use with this size leader? What do you use for surface flies as flouro sinks?  I’ve been using 14# mono for a  7 weight for gurglers, sliders and poppers with a mono tippet. For sinking flies I use a flouro tippet. I mostly fish the shallows for panfish. I’ve been using small tippet rings to connect the tippet. What size mono would you use for a 10 weight twisted leader. The mid section is 2 strands and the butt is 4 strands. Thanks in advance for any help. Hope this is helpful.

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1 min ago, tristate said:

What weight rods do you use with this size leader? What do you use for surface flies as flouro sinks?  I’ve been using 14# mono for a  7 weight for gurglers, sliders and poppers with a mono tippet. For sinking flies I use a flouro tippet. I mostly fish the shallows for panfish. I’ve been using small tippet rings to connect the tippet. What size mono would you use for a 10 weight twisted leader. The mid section is 2 strands and the butt is 4 strands. Thanks in advance for any help. Hope this is helpful.

My fav flies for stripers are Gurglers and always use Fluro.

Yes - it sinks faster than mono.

But mono also sinks.

I use 20# for #7 to #11 lines.

Tries 30# but too thick and heavy.

20# turns over very well.

My tippet is 2-3' #20.

Herb

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Like Herb I use Fluoro - but 4lb. It acts a intermediate sink tip and I feel I get better fly control with it.

 

There are LOADS of info on the net but most is geared to freshwater dryfly. Here is my formula based on a 2-leg jig. I haven't made one in ages as they last longer than flylines! If you PM me your email I can send you a bunch of info. These are my notes, hopefully, they will make sense? It is a learning curve and you will go through quite a bit of line until you get a feel for the correct amount of reduction for the material you are using.

 

 

5 1/2 foot (66 inches/168cm) Saltwater Furled Leader - for 8wt/9wt.

Material - 4lb Berkley Trilene Fluorocarbon to 4mm tippet ring.

 

Two Legs gives 5 step downs: 

 - Leg1: 57cm - 119cm
- Tip Peg: 184cm
- Leg2: 87cm - 150cm

 

Leg1          *57cm        *119cm
                                  tip 184cm
Leg2             *87cm             *150cm

 

Standard Config 1:
Wrap Step Downs - 4 1/2 - 3 1/2 - 1 1/2
This gives total strand taper of = 17 - 16 - 14 - 10 - 6

 

Heavier Config 2:
Wrap Step Downs - 4 1/2 - 3 1/2 - 2 1/2
This gives total strand taper of = 17 - 16 - 14 - 12 - 10

 

Leg twist stage - about 5% reduction
Power Furl stage - about 5% further reduction 


Start with left leg first.


Make sure tippet wraps go on outside of peg - from outside to inside

Use braided loop for loop connection / 3mm tippet ring. Use threading needle to pull leader butt loop back through braided loop.

 

 



 

Edited by JRT

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For 7-9 was I use 4# suffix fluoro and either a 4/3/2 or 4/3/1 recipe.

for 10 and above wts I use a 5/4/2 formula.

Shorb loops on both ends, although I sometimes use a tippet ring I’m the 1 loop recipe.

I use 2# mono for 5 wt and smaller.

i sometimes use fly tying thread for1-3 wts.

 

scott

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