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Man, I'm not liking all these seals

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1 hour ago, unskunk said:

you had the gun there,  why not just take 'em out?

Have any idea of what the fine could be if you got caught? And on the practical side, how effective would birdshot be on a seal?

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3 hours ago, Gotcow? said:

On the plus side you will now have a new spectator sport for down at the Bell.

 

Watching the diminishing numbers of fishermen lose it over losing fish to the salt pigs.

Man, that would almost be worth flying back to the States just to watch. :laugh: 

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27 mins ago, Ditch Jigger said:

Have any idea of what the fine could be if you got caught? And on the practical side, how effective would birdshot be on a seal?

No experience with that; but I can't imagine no real hurt to them after they scattered. Probably a Fed wildlife penalty if caught. I can't see that happening unless you were stupid enough to do the shooting where someone could ID you.

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1 hour ago, Ditch Jigger said:

Have any idea of what the fine could be if you got caught? And on the practical side, how effective would birdshot be on a seal?

If you're carrying a shotgun, you might as well bring a 30 caliber with you.....problem solved

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Feds don't take lightly to shooting Andre, and the Marine Mammal Protection Act gives them a big stick...

 

What can happen to those prosecuted for violating the MMPA?

NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement works closely with other federal and state law enforcement agencies to enforce federal regulations and investigate violations when they occur.

If prosecuted, violators of the MMPA could face:

  • Civil penalties up to $11,000.

  • Up to 1 year in prison, plus criminal fines.

  • Forfeiture of the vessel involved, including penalties for that vessel up to $25,000.

Edited by Roccus7

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39 mins ago, Roccus7 said:

Feds don't take lightly to shooting Andre, and the Marine Mammal Protection Act gives them a big stick...

 

What can happen to those prosecuted for violating the MMPA?

NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement works closely with other federal and state law enforcement agencies to enforce federal regulations and investigate violations when they occur.

If prosecuted, violators of the MMPA could face:

  • Civil penalties up to $11,000.

  • Up to 1 year in prison, plus criminal fines.

  • Forfeiture of the vessel involved, including penalties for that vessel up to $25,000.

If the courts treat dead seals like they do poached fish, blast away.  Most you will get is a slap on the wrist.

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You guys have no idea how bad it can get with the big greys. I fish Nantucket a lot during the summer out at great point and the grey seals will actually sit and watch you from 20 yds out and not leave. These seals actually know what it looks like when you have a fish on and will search for the hooked fish.  Getting a fish by them is a team effort to say the least with a couple people on the beach running at the seal when it come up on the beach and chases your fish you caught. When you get that fish by the seals it’s a parade of honking horns in cars and hoots and hollers from the crowd. Hahah 

  The best way to save your fish sometimes is to open the bail and let the fish swim free when the seal tracks it. Fish will run and the seal will

Loose  interest becuase it knows it’s not a free meal. It’s only going to get worse as the time goes by. 
 Here is one just waiting for a fish to get caught. Sucker was too lazy to even get back in the water 

  You even have to watch out for the gulls. They will try and steal your bait right off your line while you cast. 

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4 hours ago, Pescador710 said:

Usually in open water, they might check you out but won’t bother you. 
 

However, near rocky points or little shallow sandy patches around islands, I’ve had them ask me to leave. They’ll make a big splash, sometimes alarming close. Once I was hoping to have lunch on nice little patch of sand until a big grey let me know it was his beach. He escorted me all the way out of his little cove.

Presumably a male defending his harem's beach. Interesting.

 

You have to wonder how they perceive us. Another kind of seal? Or just "not-seal" competing for fish?

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13 mins ago, Dthfrmabove1 said:

You guys have no idea how bad it can get with the big greys. I fish Nantucket a lot during the summer out at great point and the grey seals will actually sit and watch you from 20 yds out and not leave. These seals actually know what it looks like when you have a fish on and will search for the hooked fish.  Getting a fish by them is a team effort to say the least with a couple people on the beach running at the seal when it come up on the beach and chases your fish you caught. When you get that fish by the seals it’s a parade of honking horns in cars and hoots and hollers from the crowd. Hahah 

  The best way to save your fish sometimes is to open the bail and let the fish swim free when the seal tracks it. Fish will run and the seal will

Loose  interest becuase it knows it’s not a free meal. It’s only going to get worse as the time goes by. 
 Here is one just waiting for a fish to get caught. Sucker was too lazy to even get back in the water 

  You even have to watch out for the gulls. They will try and steal your bait right off your line while you cast. 

 

I fish Nantucket for the first two weeks in October and they're really a menace. Just as you've described. I've had two showdowns with them on a dark beach. I'm not backing down. Have lost too many fish and plugs to these bandits.

 

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7 mins ago, BrianBM said:

Presumably a male defending his harem's beach. Interesting.

 

You have to wonder how they perceive us. Another kind of seal? Or just "not-seal" competing for fish?

They see us as an easy meal on the end of a line 

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Great ......we have to deal with seals and NOW...we have to use a dictionary

to find out what smarty pants Brian is conveying.   Thanks dude!

''Checkout the big brain on Brad".

 

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1 hour ago, Jeff270 said:

If the courts treat dead seals like they do poached fish, blast away.  Most you will get is a slap on the wrist.

Poached fish are usually state offenses, prosecuted in state courts, if they even get to court.  Seals are Federal offenses and ALL get prosecuted in Federal Courts, so blast at your own risk...

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