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Construction on backside of Demo

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I was visiting my MIL again on LI and went for a LONG walk across Democrat Point. What's going on there? Lots of tug boats, barges, very long driller pipes, buoys, etc. on the backside. A large stretch of the coast was flattened and I remember there being lots of trees, bush, shrubs, etc. along that stretch butting up to the waterfront, but they all seem to have been removed... Now there is acres of dry sand with NOTHING on it. It seems very weird that this is construction is an improvement, especially removing all the vegetation. 

 

Also, as you drive in with your beach buggy (about 1/4 mile in from the road), there used to be a stretch of rocks that many people would fish from on the backside (it's more like the GSB there), the side where you first see the water when you drive in and the rocks are on the right side. Many of those rocks have disappeared. I remember it being one long stretch of rocks with many people often fishing there. Now it's just a few patches of low rocks with lots of breaks where water enters the 'road'.  It's so weird to see that those rocks 'washed away' (or whatever happened).

 

I guess it makes for better fluke fishing across the backside with all that sand, but it can't be an improvement for stripers or blues...  Or perhaps I am wrong...

 

LMK what you know.  Carpniels

 

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heard that someone ran over a seal at one of the 4x4 spots.... guarantee fishermen get reprimanded for some jeep bro's carelessness. 

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I saw this too - kind of shocking seeing that cove completely flat and featureless. They removed a few large dunes (one at lease 25 feet) and a whole section of trees. Wonder how it’ll fish, used to slay big blues over there.

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Newsday just carried an article about sand from Fire Island Inlet being pumped to Gilgo, so that Gilgo could be reopened for 4x4s.  That makes sense, as they've done that before.

 

I've also heard, from a semi-reliable source quoting an ACoE document, that the changes at Democrat really are intended to provide better plover nesting habitat.

 

On the other hand, I've heard that the inlet channel is effectively unchanged, so I'm not sure where any dredging and sand transfer took place.

 

If my marina really puts my boat in this week, maybe i'll take a ride down and get a look.

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32 mins ago, CWitek said:

Newsday just carried an article about sand from Fire Island Inlet being pumped to Gilgo, so that Gilgo could be reopened for 4x4s.  That makes sense, as they've done that before.

 

I've also heard, from a semi-reliable source quoting an ACoE document, that the changes at Democrat really are intended to provide better plover nesting habitat.

 

On the other hand, I've heard that the inlet channel is effectively unchanged, so I'm not sure where any dredging and sand transfer took place.

 

If my marina really puts my boat in this week, maybe i'll take a ride down and get a look.

Gilgo is a freaking joke, they basically pumped sand for soccer mom non-fishing beach 

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12 mins ago, Sandflee said:

Gilgo is a freaking joke, they basically pumped sand for soccer mom non-fishing beach 

From what I see when I run the inlet, that sounds about right.

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On 4/11/2022 at 2:52 PM, Sandflee said:

Gilgo is a freaking joke, they basically pumped sand for soccer mom non-fishing beach 

Bingo. Make Gilgo a piping plover habitat and reopen 4x4 access to the point because that walk blows lol

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On 4/11/2022 at 1:47 PM, JimmyBean said:

used to slay big blues over there.

 

USED TO!!!!!!!

:howdy:

Not any more

And not just blues, rest of the fish, too.

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Flew over it coming back from Florida on Thursday. Didn't think to grab the phone to take a pic until it was too late. The place looks shot. Completely flat & barren from the jetty looking west, and big salt puddles all over it. Forget about driving on it. They destroyed it :dismay:. What a waste of tax money. 

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I just find it funny how every GSB revitalization plan claims how the marshes are gone and shellfish are gone sooo lets bulldoze an entire salt pond and marsh teeming with life. That was a nursery for blue crabs and many other species. Plovers are the top of the food chain when it comes to protection and provide the least benefit to the environment 

 

What else is new. Ass backwards.

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any chance that last storm got rid of the effing plovers ?    water was up to the dunes at Tobay with a big Lagoon between the dunes and the berm.

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2 hours ago, pequa11 said:

any chance that last storm got rid of the effing plovers ?    water was up to the dunes at Tobay with a big Lagoon between the dunes and the berm.

Yea I saw that not much left there ..

 

smith point was similar . There will be no driving on fins anywhere near high tide ..  the salvage company’s gonna clean up this year 

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