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You learn something new every day......

 

the CEO of Pfizer is a veterinarian.

 

question for discussion.......... if people can say don't take ivermectin because it's for animals...........why can they say put all your trust in a veterinarian for your own health issues?

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Sheeple will trust whoever they're told to trust.

 

Found this interesting:

 

Because of the way they are constructed, Randomized Control Trials will never show any benefit for any antiviral against COVID-19. Not Remdesivir, not Kaletra, not HCQ, and not Ivermectin. The reason for this is simple; for the patients that they have recruited for these studies, such as Oxford’s ludicrous RECOVERY study, the intervention is too late to have any positive effect.

 

The clinical course of COVID-19 is such that by the time most people seek medical attention for hypoxia, their viral load has already tapered off to almost nothing. If someone is about 10 days post-exposure and has already been symptomatic for five days, there is hardly any virus left in their bodies, only cellular damage and derangement that has initiated a hyperinflammatory response. It is from this group that the clinical trials for antivirals have recruited, pretty much exclusively.

 

In these trials, they give antivirals to severely ill patients who have no virus in their bodies, only a delayed hyperinflammatory response, and then absurdly claim that antivirals have no utility in treating or preventing COVID-19. These clinical trials do not recruit people who are pre-symptomatic. They do not test pre-exposure or post-exposure prophylaxis.

 

This is like using a defibrillator to shock only flatline, and then absurdly claiming that defibrillators have no medical utility whatsoever when the patients refuse to rise from the dead. The intervention is too late. These trials for antivirals show systematic, egregious selection bias. They are providing a treatment that is futile to the specific cohort they are enrolling.

 

India went against the instructions of the WHO and mandated the prophylactic usage of Ivermectin. They have almost completely eradicated COVID-19. The Indian Bar Association of Mumbai has brought criminal charges against WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for recommending against the use of Ivermectin.

 

Ivermectin is not “horse dewormer”. Yes, it is sold in veterinary paste form as a dewormer for animals. It has also been available in pill form for humans for decades, as an antiparasitic drug.

 

The media have disingenuously claimed that because Ivermectin is an antiparasitic drug, it has no utility as an antivirus. This is incorrect. Ivermectin has utility as an antiviral. It blocks importin, preventing nuclear import, effectively inhibiting viral access to cell nuclei. Many drugs currently on the market have multiple modes of action. Ivermectin is one such drug. It is both antiparasitic and antiviral.

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4 mins ago, Paulie Herman said:

 Ivermectin has utility as an antiviral. It blocks importin, preventing nuclear import, effectively inhibiting viral access to cell nuclei. Many drugs currently on the market have multiple modes of action. Ivermectin is one such drug. It is both antiparasitic and antiviral.

So should everyone just start taking ivermectin as a proactive preventative?

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1 hour ago, eddy said:

You learn something new every day......

 

the CEO of Pfizer is a veterinarian.

 

question for discussion.......... if people can say don't take ivermectin because it's for animals...........why can they say put all your trust in a veterinarian for your own health issues?

Wow Eddy. That’s dopey. I mean, seriously. Look at what you’re asking.

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My friend who is a bomb expert said ramming a stick of dynamite up your arse is really bad for your health.

Question for discussion.......... if people can say don't ram dynamite up your arse because it's for blowing things up...........why can they say put all your trust in a bomb expert for your own health issues?

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15 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

So should everyone just start taking ivermectin as a proactive preventative?

Since I don't consider dictatorship as an acceptable form of government, I say let individuals make that decision for themselves. 

 

Looks like it did work well in India though.

 

"India went against the instructions of the WHO and mandated the prophylactic usage of Ivermectin. They have almost completely eradicated COVID-19. The Indian Bar Association of Mumbai has brought criminal charges against WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for recommending against the use of Ivermectin."

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10 mins ago, Paulie Herman said:

Since I don't consider dictatorship as an acceptable form of government, I say let individuals make that decision for themselves. 

 

Looks like it did work well in India though.

 

"India went against the instructions of the WHO and mandated the prophylactic usage of Ivermectin. They have almost completely eradicated COVID-19. The Indian Bar Association of Mumbai has brought criminal charges against WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for recommending against the use of Ivermectin."

But our country will not go against the recommendations.

 

I wonder how they (India) established a base line for dosing?

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1 min ago, Cayotica said:

And what’s wrong with a Veterinarian being in charge of Pfizer, aren’t we all animals anyway.

True enough, we do have a couple of ankle biters here on this very forum

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DVM’s are often considered better doctors than MD’s. The veterinarian’s patients usually can’t tell them what’s bothering them. What’s not to trust?

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48 mins ago, KarpsnKatz said:

DVM’s are often considered better doctors than MD’s. The veterinarian’s patients usually can’t tell them what’s bothering them. What’s not to trust?

:laugh:
there’s some truth to this

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4 hours ago, Paulie Herman said:

Sheeple will trust whoever they're told to trust.

 

Found this interesting:

 

Because of the way they are constructed, Randomized Control Trials will never show any benefit for any antiviral against COVID-19. Not Remdesivir, not Kaletra, not HCQ, and not Ivermectin. The reason for this is simple; for the patients that they have recruited for these studies, such as Oxford’s ludicrous RECOVERY study, the intervention is too late to have any positive effect.

 

The clinical course of COVID-19 is such that by the time most people seek medical attention for hypoxia, their viral load has already tapered off to almost nothing. If someone is about 10 days post-exposure and has already been symptomatic for five days, there is hardly any virus left in their bodies, only cellular damage and derangement that has initiated a hyperinflammatory response. It is from this group that the clinical trials for antivirals have recruited, pretty much exclusively.

 

In these trials, they give antivirals to severely ill patients who have no virus in their bodies, only a delayed hyperinflammatory response, and then absurdly claim that antivirals have no utility in treating or preventing COVID-19. These clinical trials do not recruit people who are pre-symptomatic. They do not test pre-exposure or post-exposure prophylaxis.

 

This is like using a defibrillator to shock only flatline, and then absurdly claiming that defibrillators have no medical utility whatsoever when the patients refuse to rise from the dead. The intervention is too late. These trials for antivirals show systematic, egregious selection bias. They are providing a treatment that is futile to the specific cohort they are enrolling.

 

India went against the instructions of the WHO and mandated the prophylactic usage of Ivermectin. They have almost completely eradicated COVID-19. The Indian Bar Association of Mumbai has brought criminal charges against WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for recommending against the use of Ivermectin.

 

Ivermectin is not “horse dewormer”. Yes, it is sold in veterinary paste form as a dewormer for animals. It has also been available in pill form for humans for decades, as an antiparasitic drug.

 

The media have disingenuously claimed that because Ivermectin is an antiparasitic drug, it has no utility as an antivirus. This is incorrect. Ivermectin has utility as an antiviral. It blocks importin, preventing nuclear import, effectively inhibiting viral access to cell nuclei. Many drugs currently on the market have multiple modes of action. Ivermectin is one such drug. It is both antiparasitic and antiviral.

...and cheap, so there's no money to be made from it, while the shots are going to make scores of billions of dollars for big pharma, politicians and certain bureaucrats.

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