pjgreek Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 I was going to tie some tutti frutti clousers for albies and I've seen pink over chartreuse and visa-versa. Is there a right way or wrong way with this color combo? Do people have better luck with one or the other? Thanks, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27conch Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 I have always dome mine with the pink on top. pjgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kml Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Doesn’t matter pjgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Tutti frutti, electric chicken, tomato, tomoto, let’s call the whole thing off. JC theshadow, pjgreek and PatchyFog 3 __________________Our tradition is that of the first man who sneaked off to the creek when the tribe did not really need fish. Haig-Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshadow Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Tied both ways and see no difference.Don't overlook pink over white and all pink[bubblegum]. pjgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyman28 Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 I think it is pink over lime not pink over chartreuse. Lime is a fluorescent green, chartreuse is fluorescent yellow. My $.02. pjgreek and SSPey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryGreene Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) I spoke to a few Stripers yesterday and they said they liked the darker color on the top, because it represents the Dorsal line of the baitfish. Which color is darker, Pink or Chartreuse? Well, to make Pink, we use a base of red and mix white into it. With Chatreuse, we use Green and Yellow. Therefore, technically, the color with some white on it would be better used on the bottom of the fly, where we'd be more apt to find some belly like shades of white. Edited September 15, 2021 by CaryGreene t_man7, pjgreek and Blank Disc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bait Tailer Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 I like them blended to a nice fluorescent peach to orange but the damn Albies won’t give me any feedback. pjgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Coaster Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 mins ago, CaryGreene said: I spoke to a few Stripers yesterday and they said they liked the darker color on the top, because it represents the Dorsal line of the baitfish. Which color is darker, Pink or Chartreuse? Well, to make Pink, we use a base of red and mix white into it. With Chatreuse, we use Green and Yellow. Therefore, technically, the color with some white on it would be better used on the bottom of the fly, where we'd be more apt to find some belly like shades of white. Of course, if the darker color were on the bottom, that would suggest a fish swimming/floating belly up. Might stand out (and be targeted) in a school of baitfish. YMMV..... BWalsh and Bait Tailer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryGreene Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 20 mins ago, Bait Tailer said: I like them blended to a nice fluorescent peach to orange but the damn Albies won’t give me any feedback. You've got to ask them, otherwise they are just focused on getting back to hammering on rain-bait! pjgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bait Tailer Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 mins ago, CaryGreene said: You've got to ask them, otherwise they are just focused on getting back to hammering on rain-bait! Hopefully I’ll have the chance soon. I broke one off a little over 2 weeks ago - yes I wash rushing and didn’t manage the snot ball tangle of line in and around the stripping basket. Unfortunately I haven’t had another shot since. I think it’s possible the UV properties of bright pink and chartreuse have more to do with the tutti-frutti’s appeal. Tom Gilmore’s book says albacore have monochromatic vision, but found a few others who said they were in the mackeral family and had dichromatic vision including blues and some green. Not sure it matters but found it interesting. pjgreek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaryGreene Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 4 mins ago, Bait Tailer said: Hopefully I’ll have the chance soon. I broke one off a little over 2 weeks ago - yes I wash rushing and didn’t manage the snot ball tangle of line in and around the stripping basket. Unfortunately I haven’t had another shot since. I think it’s possible the UV properties of bright pink and chartreuse have more to do with the tutti-frutti’s appeal. Tom Gilmore’s book says albacore have monochromatic vision, but found a few others who said they were in the mackeral family and had dichromatic vision including blues and some green. Not sure it matters but found it interesting. Good stuff BT! There are pretty definitative studies that point to Stripers being able to best see anything in the Yellow spectrum. Both Pink and Chartreuse are in that family and the advantage to combining the two is that max contrast is achieved. But Albies and Bonito are different species altogether. It does seem that Albies like Electric Yellow over White as a color and they also like Pink as well, along with Amber at times and no doubt, Greens and Olives. Color is a bit overrated when fishing for Albies in my opinion. Their behavior varries widely. Leader and less visible connections appear to be very important. On windy days, commotion is absolutely key. Flies that make noise get noticed. In clear water, natural shades seem to be preferred slightly, but I've had days where all pink was the ticket so it's hard to generalize. Main thing is that you get out there and enjoy yourself. Probably go with Pink on the bottom but you'll find your own conclusions, as most fly-fishermen do. Focus on the knots and the leader and enjoy that we even have these magnificent torpedoes to target for our own amusement! Bait Tailer and pjgreek 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjgreek Posted September 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 Thanks everyone and tight lines! Bait Tailer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpalms Posted September 15, 2021 Report Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, CaryGreene said: Good stuff BT! There are pretty definitative studies that point to Stripers being able to best see anything in the Yellow spectrum. Both Pink and Chartreuse are in that family and the advantage to combining the two is that max contrast is achieved. But Albies and Bonito are different species altogether. It does seem that Albies like Electric Yellow over White as a color and they also like Pink as well, along with Amber at times and no doubt, Greens and Olives. Color is a bit overrated when fishing for Albies in my opinion. Their behavior varries widely. Leader and less visible connections appear to be very important. On windy days, commotion is absolutely key. Flies that make noise get noticed. In clear water, natural shades seem to be preferred slightly, but I've had days where all pink was the ticket so it's hard to generalize. Main thing is that you get out there and enjoy yourself. Probably go with Pink on the bottom but you'll find your own conclusions, as most fly-fishermen do. Focus on the knots and the leader and enjoy that we even have these magnificent torpedoes to target for our own amusement! Ever tried a glow albie fly? I'm not sure glow even exists within fly tying material lexicon but I would sure would like to try out a glow albie whore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonefish Posted September 16, 2021 Report Share Posted September 16, 2021 Here on the west coast lots of coho have fallen for that color combo. I don’t think it really matters though. I always default to chartreuse over pink but have caught a lot on solid pink or chartreuse as well. SF East Coaster and theshadow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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