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Ok.  Tired of going to incredible places and trying to capture what I see with an IPhone or a Go Pro.  No knock on them, but I need a camera that has a great zoom, is durable, and can get what I see in my mind to the picture.  And if it was as easy as buying a $5,000 set up, I could handle this on my own.  I aint afraid of $ money but I am not looking for commercial grade or top end stuff.  Lots of good features, reliable, great zoom, wont cost the world.

 

What do you use?

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Lots of choices and lots to think about, I don't even think of my camera's as being durable. Choices of full frame or cropped image, lens for wide angle, mid range and telephoto. The bigger the less likely for me to carry and then regretting not making the effort. I leave mine in the car until the weather gets to hot just because an opportunity my arise. The new phones seem to have enhanced capabilities so maybe you get away with a good camera and telephoto. Depending on your intended subjects whether wildlife or stationary will also determine your needs. Not to mention accessories like polarized filters and ND filters and tripods. Don't overlook used equipment as there are reputable dealers and savings will add up.  It would be good to go the photography forum as there are many talented members there who are very good and knowledgeable. It's rewarding when you get a good photograph but those who get great photographs are not lucky it's knowledge and dedication. Best of luck.

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Please elaborate on "great zoom" as well as what you want to photograph. Squidder makes some great points that I will not repeat. 

 

What do you want to photograph in such great detail? 

  • Scenery and backgrounds? 
  • People in the frame while fishing?
  • Hero shots? 
  • Fish closeups?
  • Macro? 

How much gear do you want to carry?

How do you want to carry it? 

Do you see yourself being a dedicated photographer on any given day or will you fish and then shoot a few photos?

 

Rivers? Lakes? Boats? Wading? Surf? 

 

What quality of photo images do you want? Instagram art? Blowups of stills to adorn your walls? Magazine grade? 

 

As to what I use, I have a Olympus Tough TG-3 that was my "fishing camera" for years. Then I upgraded to a iPhone10 and have not carried the Olympus since then. Why bother given the quality of photos I get from that phone. I almost upgraded to the iPhone 12 for its enhanced cameras but have not done so since reading the leaked specs on the 13 which will come out in six months. I have blown up photos from the phone to over 24" wide and they are great.

 

Some iPhone photos with the 10, though the image quality is reduced when uploading here. 

 

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BUT, they are not really magazine grade and do not compare to someone using a full sensor DSLR with prime lenses from Canon or Nikon. There is one Instagram account I follow where the photos of trout fishing are superb and the guy uses full-frame Nikon and carries three Nikon prime lenses with him. That's quite a bit of kit and no, he does not fish when he is carrying that gear. 

 

I do have one DSLR that I take on drift and offshore boats with me, a Canon 70D on which I normally have a Canon 18-135 image stabilized lens. That is a great all-around lens and takes good to very good photos, but it is slow at f3.5-5.6. No bokeh under most circumstances and ability to blur backgrounds is limited compared to a f2 or 1.8. 

 

I also have a Canon Rebel DSLR, the smallest they make for when I want to carry a bit lighter with a lower quality kit lens (18-55 I think). Will take better photos than the phone but not as good as the old 70D. 

 

And then there is my Sigma 150-600 telephoto that I sometimes carry in a backpack on the beach on the 70D. Not useful for fishing shots per say, unless you are shooting fish crushing bait and you are on the sand. The Contemporary takes quite good photos and is much cheaper than the Sigma Sport series. 

 

These were taken on a day when the fish were not cooperating but this little guy did not mind me laying in the sand a few yards from him and snapping away with the motor drive. The other two were feeding on minnows caught in the wash. All snapped with the 150-600 and the motordrive set to fast (5 or 6 fps?). 

 

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22 hours ago, squidder 329 said:

Lots of choices and lots to think about, I don't even think of my camera's as being durable. Choices of full frame or cropped image, lens for wide angle, mid range and telephoto. The bigger the less likely for me to carry and then regretting not making the effort. I leave mine in the car until the weather gets to hot just because an opportunity my arise. The new phones seem to have enhanced capabilities so maybe you get away with a good camera and telephoto. Depending on your intended subjects whether wildlife or stationary will also determine your needs. Not to mention accessories like polarized filters and ND filters and tripods. Don't overlook used equipment as there are reputable dealers and savings will add up.  It would be good to go the photography forum as there are many talented members there who are very good and knowledgeable. It's rewarding when you get a good photograph but those who get great photographs are not lucky it's knowledge and dedication. Best of luck.

Thank you sir.  I did not know there was a photo phorum.  lol

 

Def wildlife at distance sometimes (birds)  Sometimes mid ranger  AND close up.  just like a fisherman "I want a pole I can fluke with but can also catch striper, but also large mouth bass...and catfish.  haha  thanks again.

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@flyangler

Thorough as ****, as always sir.

 

I may be picking your brain if you dont mind.  Lots of good stuff here.  Much is pretty much what I thought, but I sorta drifted out of the camera world for 5 or so years and was wondering if the SP Minnow of cameras was invented yet.

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11 mins ago, Shipwreck said:

@flyangler

Thorough as ****, as always sir.

 

I may be picking your brain if you dont mind.  Lots of good stuff here.  Much is pretty much what I thought, but I sorta drifted out of the camera world for 5 or so years and was wondering if the SP Minnow of cameras was invented yet.

Apparently so the Mirrorless which I know very little about other than great pictures and lighter weight. I can't financially get interested because I know what will happen. :banghd:

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Mirrorless is interesting if you don’t have any equipment at the moment. I don’t do enough serious work, and I have too much invested in existing gear, to decide to toss it all (sell) to start from scratch. 
 

But, if I were, I would definitely be considering a mirrorless body for the reasons you state. Like DSLRs, most manufacturers have two lines at two price points, though they likely don’t have a cheaper line as you see in DSLR. However, even those cheaper cameras are being phased out as makers cannot compete with mobile phones. 
 

Above it was suggested to consider the used gear market, very smart idea. So much gear out there, up to the most recent models, for far less than retail pricing. 

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You May want to check out some of the new " Bridge " cameras.

 

Sony has the lead with these, something like the  The Sony RX10 III or IV.

 

After these it interchangeable lens etc. , a different level of commitment.

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3 hours ago, Plug and teaser said:

You May want to check out some of the new " Bridge " cameras.

 

Sony has the lead with these, something like the  The Sony RX10 III or IV.

 

After these it interchangeable lens etc. , a different level of commitment.

Plug, I have done that with advanced point & shoots, the earlier versions of bridge cameras. Based on the OP, I don't see that as a big enough uptick from a good phone camera, nor will it give him all that he wants from closeups to bird shots. Personally, I would either upgrade my phone to the latest to get the better imaging systems, or go the body & detachable lens route. The camera equivalent of a Swiss Army knife won't cover enough of his needs IMO. 

 

My $0.02

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On 5/16/2021 at 9:10 AM, flyangler said:

Please elaborate on "great zoom" as well as what you want to photograph. Squidder makes some great points that I will not repeat. 

 

What do you want to photograph in such great detail? 

  • Scenery and backgrounds? 
  • People in the frame while fishing?
  • Hero shots? 
  • Fish closeups?
  • Macro? 

How much gear do you want to carry?

How do you want to carry it? 

Do you see yourself being a dedicated photographer on any given day or will you fish and then shoot a few photos?

 

Rivers? Lakes? Boats? Wading? Surf? 

 

What quality of photo images do you want? Instagram art? Blowups of stills to adorn your walls? Magazine grade? 

 

As to what I use, I have a Olympus Tough TG-3 that was my "fishing camera" for years. Then I upgraded to a iPhone10 and have not carried the Olympus since then. Why bother given the quality of photos I get from that phone. I almost upgraded to the iPhone 12 for its enhanced cameras but have not done so since reading the leaked specs on the 13 which will come out in six months. I have blown up photos from the phone to over 24" wide and they are great.

 

Some iPhone photos with the 10, though the image quality is reduced when uploading here. 

 

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BUT, they are not really magazine grade and do not compare to someone using a full sensor DSLR with prime lenses from Canon or Nikon. There is one Instagram account I follow where the photos of trout fishing are superb and the guy uses full-frame Nikon and carries three Nikon prime lenses with him. That's quite a bit of kit and no, he does not fish when he is carrying that gear. 

 

I do have one DSLR that I take on drift and offshore boats with me, a Canon 70D on which I normally have a Canon 18-135 image stabilized lens. That is a great all-around lens and takes good to very good photos, but it is slow at f3.5-5.6. No bokeh under most circumstances and ability to blur backgrounds is limited compared to a f2 or 1.8. 

 

I also have a Canon Rebel DSLR, the smallest they make for when I want to carry a bit lighter with a lower quality kit lens (18-55 I think). Will take better photos than the phone but not as good as the old 70D. 

 

And then there is my Sigma 150-600 telephoto that I sometimes carry in a backpack on the beach on the 70D. Not useful for fishing shots per say, unless you are shooting fish crushing bait and you are on the sand. The Contemporary takes quite good photos and is much cheaper than the Sigma Sport series. 

 

These were taken on a day when the fish were not cooperating but this little guy did not mind me laying in the sand a few yards from him and snapping away with the motor drive. The other two were feeding on minnows caught in the wash. All snapped with the 150-600 and the motordrive set to fast (5 or 6 fps?). 

 

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Good read, and some nice shoots.

 

Question i phone 13 VS Galaxy Samsung 21 plus. Can you give me Pros and cons on the phones camera. My old S7 is getting tired

Lou T

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3 mins ago, Lou T said:

Good read, and some nice shoots.

 

Question i phone 13 VS Galaxy Samsung 21 plus. Can you give me Pros and cons on the phones camera. My old S7 is getting tired

Lou T

Lou, I am still using my iPhone 10 and have not upgraded to a 12 as yet, so can't comment on that. 

 

The iPhone 13 will not be out until the autumn, like announced in September and then shipped in October or November. 

 

This site discusses some of what is thought to be coming. 

 

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/iphone-13-release-date-price-specs-leaks

 

I have no experience with the Samsung and given we are an all-Apple family (for better or worse), I will never introduce another brand into the mix, for now....

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Fair enough, thanks for the information

Lou 

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On 5/16/2021 at 9:10 AM, flyangler said:

Please elaborate on "great zoom" as well as what you want to photograph. Squidder makes some great points that I will not repeat. 

 

What do you want to photograph in such great detail? 

  • Scenery and backgrounds? 
  • People in the frame while fishing?
  • Hero shots? 
  • Fish closeups?
  • Macro? 

How much gear do you want to carry?

How do you want to carry it? 

Do you see yourself being a dedicated photographer on any given day or will you fish and then shoot a few photos?

 

Rivers? Lakes? Boats? Wading? Surf? 

 

What quality of photo images do you want? Instagram art? Blowups of stills to adorn your walls? Magazine grade? 

 

As to what I use, I have a Olympus Tough TG-3 that was my "fishing camera" for years. Then I upgraded to a iPhone10 and have not carried the Olympus since then. Why bother given the quality of photos I get from that phone. I almost upgraded to the iPhone 12 for its enhanced cameras but have not done so since reading the leaked specs on the 13 which will come out in six months. I have blown up photos from the phone to over 24" wide and they are great.

 

Some iPhone photos with the 10, though the image quality is reduced when uploading here. 

 

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BUT, they are not really magazine grade and do not compare to someone using a full sensor DSLR with prime lenses from Canon or Nikon. There is one Instagram account I follow where the photos of trout fishing are superb and the guy uses full-frame Nikon and carries three Nikon prime lenses with him. That's quite a bit of kit and no, he does not fish when he is carrying that gear. 

 

I do have one DSLR that I take on drift and offshore boats with me, a Canon 70D on which I normally have a Canon 18-135 image stabilized lens. That is a great all-around lens and takes good to very good photos, but it is slow at f3.5-5.6. No bokeh under most circumstances and ability to blur backgrounds is limited compared to a f2 or 1.8. 

 

I also have a Canon Rebel DSLR, the smallest they make for when I want to carry a bit lighter with a lower quality kit lens (18-55 I think). Will take better photos than the phone but not as good as the old 70D. 

 

And then there is my Sigma 150-600 telephoto that I sometimes carry in a backpack on the beach on the 70D. Not useful for fishing shots per say, unless you are shooting fish crushing bait and you are on the sand. The Contemporary takes quite good photos and is much cheaper than the Sigma Sport series. 

 

These were taken on a day when the fish were not cooperating but this little guy did not mind me laying in the sand a few yards from him and snapping away with the motor drive. The other two were feeding on minnows caught in the wash. All snapped with the 150-600 and the motordrive set to fast (5 or 6 fps?). 

 

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Beautiful pics!!

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Another thought Iphones can be used with spotting scopes if that is any help. Beautiful pictures Flyangler :wave:

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