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Help Wanted signs everywhere it's getting ridiculous

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19 hours ago, stormy monday said:

What benefits is he offering? When software developers were hard to get not that long ago we were giving signing bonuses, stock options and even paid sabatticals to attract talent. HR was giving us training on why we need to put in ping pong tables and bean bag chairs fercripessakes. And those who did it got the talent. A lot of the kids I know have taken to the gig economy because they don't like the options presented - they're working and collecting would not pay their rent and food, but they figure if they're going to get crap pay and no benefits they might as well have flexibility. You often hear that there is no God given right to a living wage, and that is true. However there is also no God given right to cheap labor. Employers need to figure out what it will take to attract workers and do it - adapt or die. And if their business model can't support that maybe their business wasn't that feasible to begin with.

We're talking about the restaurant business, not software developers.

 

What the **** "benefit" do you think some poor schlub that runs a restaurant has to give?

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21 hours ago, Mummichog said:

I have people offering to buy my house for more than it's worth....on the daily.  My lake house is paid off, so I could just sell and move there.  But I have a kid in school until next June, so I gotta stand pat.  I also have to wonder what capital gains tax will look like under a socialist utopia?  You always get punished for doing the right thing.  

Sell it! 
live in an apt or rent a house for a year then move. You’ll kick yourself if this market dies. 

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5 hours ago, Slacker said:

Not a historically unique situation.  I've seen at least 3-4 real estate bubbles inflate and burst.  This one will be no different... and the tears will flow.

The absorption rate in your community has been this low 3-4 times during your lifetime?  Do you have the data to back that up?  Because that's incredible.  What drove the last Real Estate bubble?  Was it different than what's going on today in any way?  Educate us.

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17 mins ago, MikeM58 said:

  What drove the last Real Estate bubble?  Was it different than what's going on today in any way?  Educate us.

Sub-prime mortgage lending which popped with the credit market in 2007-08.

 

Also, 100% or higher loan-to-value mortgage lending.
 

Also, hedge funds and banks using asset-backed security conduits to buy crap mortgage-backed securities and issue cheap commercial paper to fund that (creates huge profit potential or low funding and higher bond income). 

 

For the most part, not the same today.

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7 mins ago, flyangler said:

Sub-prime mortgage lending which popped with the credit market in 2007-08.

 

Also, 100% or higher loan-to-value mortgage lending.
 

Also, hedge funds and banks using asset-backed security conduits to buy crap mortgage-backed securities and issue cheap commercial paper to fund that (creates huge profit potential or low funding and higher bond income). 

 

For the most part, not the same today.

Very good.  It's nice to see someone get this correct for a change.  Today's situation is nothing like 2007-08.  Not even remotely. 

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4 hours ago, slowroller said:

Do you really have a viable business model if you can’t beat unemployment wages? It’s like Kroger in LA shutting a couple stores down rather than paying its workers an extra $5 an hour. They’ll eat the lost revenue and put 250 people out of work. Meanwhile the CEO Rodney McMullen made $14,167,163 in total compensation. Of this total $1,311,849 was received as a salary, $2,006,450 was received as a bonus, $2,100,170 was received in stock options, $8,400,002 was awarded as stock and $348,692 came from other types of compensation. That doesn’t jive with me. 

 I was in a large local fishing/hunting/outdoors store the other day and they had a kiosk set up taking applications. For **** and giggles I asked what the hours and starting pay were. $13.50/32 hrs a week. $432 a week before taxes and no benefits? No thanks. Under normal circumstances I make more than that weekly pay in an hour. 

'$432 a week before taxes and no benefits? No thanks. Under normal circumstances I make more than that weekly pay in an hour.":):) 

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On 5/8/2021 at 7:02 AM, Nessmuk said:

And the most infuriating thing about all this...is that Democrats will still be too stone-cold stupid to connect the dots.  They will learn nothing.  They will be absolutely emotionally incapable of seeing this demonstration of economic enabling for what it is, and how utterly destructive it is.  They will not admit how this illustrates what a complete failure their approach to social welfare is.

 

But orange man.  But racism.  But me too (except for Cuomo).  But 53 genders.

 

 


GOLD STAR!


it’s always fascinating to see another brilliant @7 Rivers rebuttal.

 

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Whenever I see a dislike its ol seven.

 

I just hit like to counter it and its back to even.  You guys dont see those.

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4 hours ago, slowroller said:

Do you really have a viable business model if you can’t beat unemployment wages? It’s like Kroger in LA shutting a couple stores down rather than paying its workers an extra $5 an hour. They’ll eat the lost revenue and put 250 people out of work. Meanwhile the CEO Rodney McMullen made $14,167,163 in total compensation. Of this total $1,311,849 was received as a salary, $2,006,450 was received as a bonus, $2,100,170 was received in stock options, $8,400,002 was awarded as stock and $348,692 came from other types of compensation. That doesn’t jive with me. 

 I was in a large local fishing/hunting/outdoors store the other day and they had a kiosk set up taking applications. For **** and giggles I asked what the hours and starting pay were. $13.50/32 hrs a week. $432 a week before taxes and no benefits? No thanks. Under normal circumstances I make more than that weekly pay in an hour. 

 

 

 You just denounced the ceo of Kroger for making more than his fair share at the beginning of the post, and at the end claimed that you "under normal circumstances", make way more than your fair share.

 

 

This is the post of the day!!!!!!!!!  

 

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 I was in a large local fishing/hunting/outdoors store the other day and they had a kiosk set up taking applications. For **** and giggles I asked what the hours and starting pay were. $13.50/32 hrs a week.

I dont believe that.  I believe you made that up.  If you make more that 432 an hour, you dont care one GD bit how much a job at some pretend BS store pays for a job.  You dont.

 

UNLESSSSSSSSSS, yo dont make more than 432 an hour, and you are looking for a job hanging up yoga pants and jock straps.  That is more believable.

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40 mins ago, codfish said:

'$432 a week before taxes and no benefits? No thanks. Under normal circumstances I make more than that weekly pay in an hour.":):) 

And you received a stimulus check! And can’t find a van Stall. 

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5 mins ago, Markushook said:

And you received a stimulus check! And can’t find a van Stall. 

Silly:):) I was quoting Slowrollers post

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6 hours ago, slowroller said:

. For **** and giggles I asked what the hours and starting pay were. $13.50/32 hrs a week. 

This has really caught my interest this morning.  Tell me, how did this scenario work out?

 

So you walk in and there is "the Kiosk"  Was it just a display stand, or was it what we think of as an actual Kiosk, like with a person manning the kiosk?

Cause if I was hurting for labor, I GD sure would not waste a person to sit in a box to entertain bored Prius driving uber rich leftist shoppers like you.  I can see leaving a pile of brochures or aven applications.  Not going to pay 200 bucks a day to have someone hand out brochures-I can do that with a 6 dollar basket.

 

So yeah.  OK Benefit of the doubt goes to you, I'll press on as if the story is true, and there was nobody at the "kiosk".  So at this point, you see the kiosk, and you feel compelled (for **** and giggles you said) to search out a member of management and query-for **** and giggles-them on a job offer made.  A job that as a .1%er, could not be more meaningless to you or anyone in your orbit.  Did you find the first employee you saw and ask them where to find a person with HR  bona fides ?  Did the manager have ona special hat, like at Burger King where the Senior VP of the kingdom has an orange polyester shirt instead of a brown one?  Where did you inquire.

 

 

Lets get this much of the story straight, and then we can press on.  I want to hear details of the conversation you had, im thinking its ****ing fascinating!

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3 hours ago, Markushook said:

Sell it! 
live in an apt or rent a house for a year then move. You’ll kick yourself if this market dies. 

My daughter graduates in 13 months.  My son in one.  I also have two dogs.  No way I can do an apartment.  

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3 hours ago, Little said:

We're talking about the restaurant business, not software developers.

 

What the **** "benefit" do you think some poor schlub that runs a restaurant has to give?

Labor is labor and if you need it you have to find a way to get it. Any business from robotics to restaurants needs the capability to adapt to changing conditions to survive. A lot of people started businesses based on a niche they found, or a skill that was in demand and they found a good way to fulfill that need, but stuff changes and you need to have the skill and willingness to change with it. In some areas that will mean offering staff more and taking less of a profit to keep it running. That's life. Water Country just upped their pay a good bit because they can't get the usual Russian summer work force. What they don't get is their lifeguards were quitting because they were also making them act as the cleaning crew. Figure that out and adapt as needed if you want to stay in business.

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16 mins ago, stormy monday said:

Labor is labor and if you need it you have to find a way to get it. Any business from robotics to restaurants needs the capability to adapt to changing conditions to survive. A lot of people started businesses based on a niche they found, or a skill that was in demand and they found a good way to fulfill that need, but stuff changes and you need to have the skill and willingness to change with it. In some areas that will mean offering staff more and taking less of a profit to keep it running. That's life. Water Country just upped their pay a good bit because they can't get the usual Russian summer work force. What they don't get is their lifeguards were quitting because they were also making them act as the cleaning crew. Figure that out and adapt as needed if you want to stay in business.


Well, this is wonderfully capitalist.  At least, as long as you completely ignore the government interventions screwing up the labor market.

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