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Today's ASMFC bass meeting--what to watch for

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Just want to remind everyone, even if your desired outcome occurs regarding these issues, you still need to hold your commissioners/ASMFC reps responsible if they vote against the fisheries (and your) best interests. 

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28 mins ago, CWitek said:

Managing for wide range of age and size, larger fish in population, etc.

 

Vote on BRPs about to come up,  I fear that it will be closer.

It’s concerning that this one was 10-6….

 

Other than NJ/MD/DE do you know who voted against it?

 

ps - I’m guessing those three were part of the six. 

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Issue 7--Recreational Release Mortality

 

Unanimous vote, keep in Amendment 7

 

Although no one is quite sure what this will address

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20 mins ago, CWitek said:

Issue 2--Biological reference points.

 

Bass win 10-6

 

We're over the big hump

I don’t know how the hell it’s that close though. 

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2 mins ago, Drew C. said:

It’s concerning that this one was 10-6….

 

Other than NJ/MD/DE do you know who voted against it?

 

ps - I’m guessing those three were part of the six. 

Potomac River Fisheries Commission, Rhode Island (technical scientific reasons, not to reduce the biomass, but to get something from a model rather than empirical BRPs), Virginia  (NOTE--this was issue 2)

 

Issue 1 was PRFC, Virginia and NMFS

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4 mins ago, CWitek said:

Issue 7--Recreational Release Mortality

 

Unanimous vote, keep in Amendment 7

 

Although no one is quite sure what this will address

I'm concerned about this issue to say the least.

I think this is a complete Red Herring.

Recreation Discard Mortality is part of the fishery.

The only way to eliminate it is to stop fishing for Striped Bass.

Circle Hoooks won't be able to stop or eliminate it and any issue raised about treble hooks is ridiculous at best.

We brought back the fishery from the colapse of the 70's and 80' with very little C&R, treble hooks, yo-yo rigs and a host of other fishing practices.

 

Bob

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6 mins ago, Jolly Green said:

I'm concerned about this issue to say the least.

I think this is a complete Red Herring.

Recreation Discard Mortality is part of the fishery.

The only way to eliminate it is to stop fishing for Striped Bass.

Circle Hoooks won't be able to stop or eliminate it and any issue raised about treble hooks is ridiculous at best.

We brought back the fishery from the colapse of the 70's and 80' with very little C&R, treble hooks, yo-yo rigs and a host of other fishing practices.

 

Bob

Circle hooks are a joke. 
 

Limiting lures to one treble, barbless trebles, etc - now you would be doing something. 

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If we’re already killing more released bass than actually kept bass just make them recreational C& R. 

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1 min ago, DZ said:

If we’re already killing more released bass than actually kept bass just make them recreational C& R. 

It's very hard for saltwater fishery mangers to get their heads around fishing for recreation rather than for meat, probably because they're so used to dealing with the commercial component.  Freshwater managers figured it out years ago.

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9 mins ago, CWitek said:

It's very hard for saltwater fishery mangers to get their heads around fishing for recreation rather than for meat, probably because they're so used to dealing with the commercial component.  Freshwater managers figured it out years ago.

Is it hard for them to understand or do they choose not to understand.

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On measures to protect the 2015 year class being added as an amendment to motion to preserve 10-year rebuilding timeline

 

Amendment passes 9-4-2

 

Next will be vote on main motion

 

 

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It's legitimately hard, because it's against all their training, which emphasizes yield.

 

That's particularly true for older managers who were taught that it's all about maximum sustainable yield.

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Motion to take Issue 4, rebuilding, out of the Amendment, and ADD protections for the 2015s

 

Passes 12-1-2

 

And yes, New Jersey was the only state against

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16 mins ago, CWitek said:

It's very hard for saltwater fishery mangers to get their heads around fishing for recreation rather than for meat, probably because they're so used to dealing with the commercial component.  Freshwater managers figured it out years ago.

....there are still a lot of people out there who do not follow all the " politics" of recreational fishing...they just like to fish and eat what they catch...been that way since the beginning.....

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