Steel Pulse Posted March 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 We will find out. Years ago I used to use a clear over paint. Determined it was more hassle than it was worth and really didn’t know why I was doing that so I stopped and never had any issue with many many plugs under the bridge by now but last year or so I’m having a hard time with black so maybe for that I’ll try out this clear. what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wire For Fire Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 System 3 i never messed with . But like I said I was having major golf balling when I switched from rattle can to airbrush . Was miserable trying to salvage plug after plug . The matte clear really helped me out big time and epoxy was spinning out dam near flawless again. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Fixter Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 I have never used E-Tex but have had an occasional issue with both gloss dark blue & gloss black Rustoleum. I've also had minor issues with metallic paints. I can almost always get away with one coat of Systems 3 clear coat. When I have issues like fish eye I just give the plug a 2nd coat of Systems 3 & it fills in any blemishes. When I do a mackerel pattern & use a Pen Touch quick dry permanent marker pen to make the black lines I will spray the plug with Rustoleum clear. Otherwise the black lines will smear when you brush on the Systems 3 clear coat. The flat colors (i.e. flat black) seem to be far less problematic & when you cover the black with epoxy it takes on a decent gloss appearance. I seriously doubt if the fish care if the plug has gloss or flat paint.... Steel Pulse and Kones1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Pulse Posted March 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Thanks Mike. Hope all is well with you and your family out on the left coast. what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H'Islander Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 FWIW, I used createx paints early-on solely because it never had poor interaction problems with etex. My plugs were like glass. Something changed in the past 8 or 10 years with either createx or etex. They do not play well together anymore and the results are discouraging. I have now resorted to using a clear coat to separate the two. I learned this from folks that were (back then) experimenting with enamel and lacquer colors and were experiencing the fish eyes and bare spots. I used the brand in your photo, but in the gloss and have found that a few problems persist with an uneven cure of the epoxy. I will be going back to the Krylon brand. Never had an issue with Krylon. "When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wire For Fire Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 6 mins ago, H'Islander said: FWIW, I used createx paints early-on solely because it never had poor interaction problems with etex. My plugs were like glass. Something changed in the past 8 or 10 years with either createx or etex. They do not play well together anymore and the results are discouraging. I have now resorted to using a clear coat to separate the two. I learned this from folks that were (back then) experimenting with enamel and lacquer colors and were experiencing the fish eyes and bare spots. I used the brand in your photo, but in the gloss and have found that a few problems persist with an uneven cure of the epoxy. I will be going back to the Krylon brand. Never had an issue with Krylon. The gloss might be the issue . Try the matte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antagonizer Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 hours ago, H'Islander said: FWIW, I used createx paints early-on solely because it never had poor interaction problems with etex. My plugs were like glass. Something changed in the past 8 or 10 years with either createx or etex. They do not play well together anymore and the results are discouraging. I totally agree something has changed in the etex. I never had issues with it in the past. I will give this clear coat a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalkat Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 (edited) I use Etex and it has been really touchy so trying to match the manufactures instructions as close to a T as possible is recommended. When I moved into my new place and got setup, I had to re-dial in my process and made some new changes to keep the temps optimum, with the winter I had some challenges but since have figured out how to get stable conditions. Heater/AC and having a temp/humidity monitor helps quite a bit. Also don't skip past cure times on the paints, follow those manufactures instructions as well. Edited March 10, 2021 by norcalkat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 I suspect it's the paint, not the epoxy. Some of the darker createx paints stay gummy, others dry rock hard. Opaque yellow is great. Opaque black, not so much. Steel Pulse and t_man7 2 Banned in Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Pulse Posted March 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 Yes black gives me fits with my epoxy. This the reason I will try this. Today as it’s nice out. norcalkat and t_man7 2 what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelbasher Posted March 10, 2021 Report Share Posted March 10, 2021 I also started using this the last few times I’ve painted/epoxy. Takes all of the fish eyes and missed spots out. Something with the createx paints does it. Not all, but a few. I had issues with the pearls more than any other paint. I’ll be painting in a few days again, hope it goes well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazzyone Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 I've used it but prefer the createx uvls clears as an intercoat. You can also add a little flake to it for some cool effects. Sparky 1 Living the dream... one sick day at a time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Pulse Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 The 4030? Yes I use that. what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazzyone Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 3 mins ago, Steel Pulse said: The 4030? Yes I use that. No this is relatively new. It's 4050 uvls. They make a matte, satin and gloss. The matte has very good adhesion. Living the dream... one sick day at a time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Pulse Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 Cool I’ll look into it. Spray on after finish paint and heat set then epoxy ? what's the secret word for tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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