Brim Gribley

Converting 710z to bailless

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On 3/8/2021 at 5:00 AM, SC said:

Used the 306 Mitchell roller since the late 60's without any issues

Me too.

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5 hours ago, Brim Gribley said:

Thank you Oldwes, do you think a st croix triumph would compare to the discontinued SC Premier surf?

 

Probably very similar but good luck finding a triumph because they’re discontinued also.

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I fish a 9' Lamiglas GSB1081L with my 710Z (It's bail-less) and I find the 710Z to a perfect match. It's really a fun combo to fish. I think you would be very happy with a 710Z on your 9 footer as well. 

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38 mins ago, surfcaster1 said:

I fish a 9' Lamiglas GSB1081L with my 710Z (It's bail-less) and I find the 710Z to a perfect match. It's really a fun combo to fish. I think you would be very happy with a 710Z on your 9 footer as well. 

do prefer Bailless now, seems like a sick set up!

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On 3/8/2021 at 5:00 AM, SC said:

Used the 306 Mitchell roller since the late 60's without any issues

do you think a 300 or a 304 mitchell roller would work?

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This works OK.  

 

Remove the entire full bail mechanism including the trip lever.  Keep the bail arm, bail arm retaining screw and line roller.

 

Go to the local hardware store and buy:

*  a piece of K&S brand 1/8" x 12"  brass tubing

*  a 4-40 stainless steel machine screw, about 1 inch long

*  two 4-40 hex nuts or one 4-40 locking hex nut

* brass or stainless steel washer that will fit under the bail arm screw

 

Cut a piece of brass tubing to make a sleeve slightly longer than the line roller.  Assemble sleeve and roller on screw. Insert it through hole in bail arm.  Secure with two hex nuts or one lock nut.  Cut or grind the end of the machine screw flush with the hex nut.

 

Secure the bail arm to the rotor with the screw and washers.  Make sure the line roller is parallel with the spool.  You should get the same line lay as the full bail.

 

This is a 716, but you get the idea.

 

Save the extra parts in case you want to restore it to stock condition.

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5 hours ago, Brim Gribley said:

do you think a 300 or a 304 mitchell roller would work?

No idea, just know the 306 roller was perfect for me the entire time I fished a 710

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5 hours ago, oc1 said:

This works OK.  

 

Remove the entire full bail mechanism including the trip lever.  Keep the bail arm, bail arm retaining screw and line roller.

 

Go to the local hardware store and buy:

*  a piece of K&S brand 1/8" x 12"  brass tubing

*  a 4-40 stainless steel machine screw, about 1 inch long

*  two 4-40 hex nuts or one 4-40 locking hex nut

* brass or stainless steel washer that will fit under the bail arm screw

 

Cut a piece of brass tubing to make a sleeve slightly longer than the line roller.  Assemble sleeve and roller on screw. Insert it through hole in bail arm.  Secure with two hex nuts or one lock nut.  Cut or grind the end of the machine screw flush with the hex nut.

 

Secure the bail arm to the rotor with the screw and washers.  Make sure the line roller is parallel with the spool.  You should get the same line lay as the full bail.

 

This is a 716, but you get the idea.

 

Save the extra parts in case you want to restore it to stock condition.

716c.jpg

716d.jpg

716g.jpg

thank you for this, gonna give it a shot

this was super helpful

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