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Carp Fishing? who does or did?

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I took my 11 year old granddaughter and my son carp fishing last Friday. First time that I have not caught a carp. River was real low and the sun was hot. Fished 5:30 to 7:45. We had kids swimming on both sides of us that did not help. Of all times to get skunked. I really want her to fight one of these strong fighting fish.

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49 mins ago, Dieseldog13 said:

I have only caught river carp but I figured they would be stronger fighters.

Maybe they are more muscular because they’ve been fighting current their whole lives? Whatever it is, I’m not complaining about a stronger fighting fish haha.

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On 6/28/2022 at 7:09 AM, TJones said:

Haha yes, No doubt! Lol…  I’m definitely no expert on proper technique, but definitely prefer looong handled pliers, haha! 
 

Seems I get way fewer turtles on fake corn also… real natural baits = more turtles for me. 

In addition to needle nose pliers, I carry a pair of the bigger sized locking surgical forceps. They seems to work out well, because you can lock onto the hook, and not lose your grip on it if the turtle comes around on you, and you have to temporarily abandon the mission.

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12 hours ago, RAW said:

Some monster carp have been spotted at the Varrick Dam in Oswego Ny. 

That must be a great area… Been seeing pics of some awesome fish coming out of upstate NY recently… some giants and some awesome looking mirrors also.

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5 hours ago, TJones said:

That must be a great area… Been seeing pics of some awesome fish coming out of upstate NY recently… some giants and some awesome looking mirrors also.

Many easily 30 lbs. make a salmon look small. All the canal and barge canals are  great habit for them

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On 6/28/2022 at 9:56 PM, ProSkateFisherman said:

Set out a carp rod while I was fishing for smallies and walleyes. Got two 18-20 pounders, a nice, albeit average size for the river I fish. River carp have more power and endurance than a lake carp IMO. The ones I get in the rivers can have multiple 50-90 yard runs sometimes, even on 12-15 pounds of drag, but normally only the 30+ pounders do that. These were the biggest of the year so far, hopefully I’ll get one over 35 or 40 this summer.

 

I also fished a lake and caught a carp that was about 10 pounds. Kind of had a weird looking spine. Barely fought, just kind of thrashed at the net. I’ve also had an observation. A lot of the carp I find in lakes are well fed, but not particularly fat or thick, but most of the carp I catch in rivers are very fat and have large shoulders. I guess there is more food in the rivers for them to feed so they get fatter faster and more often.

 

All caught on good old-fashioned canned corn, with a little bit of corn chummed by hand, no method leads or pack baits. 73C6CE4A-85F1-4D0E-92A6-AF5B7D1489FE.jpeg.3535182665603d3cc751ce32bfa45018.jpeg53F215BA-863E-45DD-8A56-94C6001DFB03.jpeg.42e404d86c67f7002c536e7061b511f9.jpegFF80376D-ABBB-4D96-A86D-E4C846B1ADA9.jpeg.40bb65200fddbe9574cffa94bcccc313.jpeg

12-15 lbs of drag and multiple  runs of 50-90 yards? That’s crazy talk.

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On 6/28/2022 at 9:56 PM, ProSkateFisherman said:

Set out a carp rod while I was fishing for smallies and walleyes. Got two 18-20 pounders, a nice, albeit average size for the river I fish. River carp have more power and endurance than a lake carp IMO. The ones I get in the rivers can have multiple 50-90 yard runs sometimes, even on 12-15 pounds of drag, but normally only the 30+ pounders do that. These were the biggest of the year so far, hopefully I’ll get one over 35 or 40 this summer.

 

I also fished a lake and caught a carp that was about 10 pounds. Kind of had a weird looking spine. Barely fought, just kind of thrashed at the net. I’ve also had an observation. A lot of the carp I find in lakes are well fed, but not particularly fat or thick, but most of the carp I catch in rivers are very fat and have large shoulders. I guess there is more food in the rivers for them to feed so they get fatter faster and more often.

 

All caught on good old-fashioned canned corn, with a little bit of corn chummed by hand, no method leads or pack baits. 73C6CE4A-85F1-4D0E-92A6-AF5B7D1489FE.jpeg.3535182665603d3cc751ce32bfa45018.jpeg53F215BA-863E-45DD-8A56-94C6001DFB03.jpeg.42e404d86c67f7002c536e7061b511f9.jpegFF80376D-ABBB-4D96-A86D-E4C846B1ADA9.jpeg.40bb65200fddbe9574cffa94bcccc313.jpeg

12-15 lbs of drag and multiple  runs of 50-90 yards? That’s crazy talk.

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8 mins ago, justafisher said:

12-15 lbs of drag and multiple  runs of 50-90 yards? That’s crazy talk.

Ok, maybe I exaggerated the length of the runs, but the drag is true. The average size of carp where I fish is about 18 pounds, with many fish being over 30, and they for some reason seem to have more power than the carp I catch in lakes. The largest fish will take 30-50 yards on 12 pounds of drag, and when I go up to 15 to stop them they are in current running downstream. I have had fish make 50-90 yards runs when I hooked a 20+ on my light smallmouth setup, but they normally break off before they can take that much.

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17 mins ago, justafisher said:

Just curious , what lb test mainline are you running ? That’s some serious drag.

30 or 40 pound suffix 832, depending on the reel I have in my car. I use 30 or 40 pound fluoro leader with a 1 ounce slip sinker. 4/0 mustad circle hook, don’t remember the specific kind but they sold them at walmart and they were unable to bend. I thought I broke off of a 30-40 pounder and lost my gear last year but when I brought in my line it turns out everything is still there and my hook isn’t bent in the slightest. Normally I don’t like going over 10-12 pounds but if they make a run downstream they require some power to stop and turn them. They kind of remind me of salmon honestly, with how they fight. 

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I used a flyrod with corn and 10 lb leader, single split. Bondi’s Island on the Ct river in west Spfld had a hot water discharge . We would go at 3 am in the winter, The.carp would would group next to mesh discharge gate. We would just flip it out and in no time one would pick it up, many times the fish would not leave the hot water. Biggest ever was 19 lbs, 16 lbs on fly rod. The river was shallow there so I could walk out 100-200’from shore to land them. They would just stop. Brother got a 33 lb one in Northampton Ma on corn fishing a sewer pipe. Amazing fish

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I can vouch for the river carp fighting harder than their lake brethren, for sure!

 

I had a fun morning session not long ago. Landed 5, lost 2… All action in an 1.5 hr window. Had both rods go off at the same time, which usually isn’t an issue if my boys are with me, but I was by myself this time, lol… fortunately both made it to the net. Best fish was 18.5 lb. 
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8 hours ago, TJones said:

I can vouch for the river carp fighting harder than their lake brethren, for sure!

 


 

 

I would agree Wholeheartedly!!  This is a Mid 20# pond carp on a 6wt.  Beat him in about 5 minutes.  I hooked a high teen fish in a tidal river on an 8wt and it ran over 70 yds before he broke me off on a piling.  Real distance, paced out and google earthed!  No comparison!

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