R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) I did a gear swap on a 6000 series reel a while ago. Never really used it much since. Something doesn't seem right and I wanted to get some opinions. After I press the button it is real "geary" until it engages for retrieve. It takes about a full handle turn or more to engage. None of my other abu's feel this way at all. The gears don't seem to mesh in the beginning and then seem ok. Could the gear or pinion be the wrong one? What else would cause this ?it was fine before the gear swap. It was a 4.7:1 gear upgrade Any ideas? Edited February 7, 2021 by R.R. Bridge Fisher troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handi2 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 It may be the pinion gear. The clunking is the pinion gear and spool trying to mate together. Maybe..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 19 mins ago, handi2 said: It may be the pinion gear. The clunking is the pinion gear and spool trying to mate together. Maybe..? Bad pinion or wrong pinion? It doesn't appear damaged Thanks troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubbs Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 what did you change out ? pinion and main gear ? or just pinion ? also there is a small brass washer that sits under the main gear ( slides on main gear shaft first ). is it there ? are both drag washers in, small one below main gear and large one inside main gear ? anti reverse dog positioned correctly? did you put the screw or e clip back in the main gear shaft ( after handle was put back on ) ? like handi said does the pinion gear mate with the spool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 27 mins ago, CDubbs said: what did you change out ? pinion and main gear ? or just pinion ? also there is a small brass washer that sits under the main gear ( slides on main gear shaft first ). is it there ? are both drag washers in, small one below main gear and large one inside main gear ? anti reverse dog positioned correctly? did you put the screw or e clip back in the main gear shaft ( after handle was put back on ) ? like handi said does the pinion gear mate with the spool ? I changed the main and pinion to a 4.7 setup Yes small brass washer Yes both drag washers Yes screw on shaft Pinion a little high then mates I can get pics tomorrow of pinion. It acts Normal after 2 cranks troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubbs Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 strange! handi probably right, sounds like a pinion /spool mating issue.. is there alot of spool play( left to right), turn the end caps in and tighten drag a little see if that helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 7 mins ago, CDubbs said: strange! handi probably right, sounds like a pinion /spool mating issue.. is there alot of spool play( left to right), turn the end caps in and tighten drag a little see if that helps I will I'm going to strip a 5500 I have down and see it the gear and pinion fit in the 6000. I believe it's 4.3 Not a ton of spool play, drag tight. Just real geary..if that's a word after my upgrade troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubbs Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) i think there were upgrades for the 5/6000 and 5/6000 C reels per Jerry's site... there is a difference, maybe you have wrong set ??? , i could be wrong, but might be worth a call to Jerry... i'll keep thinking about it though the 5500 gear and pinion will fit onto shaft etc. but pinion might not match up with 6000 spool Edited February 8, 2021 by CDubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 11 hours ago, CDubbs said: i think there were upgrades for the 5/6000 and 5/6000 C reels per Jerry's site... there is a difference, maybe you have wrong set ??? , i could be wrong, but might be worth a call to Jerry... i'll keep thinking about it though the 5500 gear and pinion will fit onto shaft etc. but pinion might not match up with 6000 spool I wish I knew before hand if the gear and pinion on the 5500 would fit my 6000. I guess it's not too bad to strip it down troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 It should work fine, long ago I swapped out the geartrains of two 6500 reels, one was 6.3:1, the other 5.3:1. Tis better to remain silent and thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDubbs Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 38 mins ago, R.R. Bridge Fisher said: I wish I knew before hand if the gear and pinion on the 5500 would fit my 6000. I guess it's not too bad to strip it down just take left side plate off each reel, pull out the 6000 spool and put it into the 5500 drive ... and see if the spool and pinion mate/ lock up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea5 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 What you might try is go to the Abu schematics site and look up the pinion part numbers of both reels using the number on the underside of the reel foot. Often part numbers remain the same on different models when the parts are the same. Might help. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 4 hours ago, sandflea5 said: What you might try is go to the Abu schematics site and look up the pinion part numbers of both reels using the number on the underside of the reel foot. Often part numbers remain the same on different models when the parts are the same. Might help. Sam I never had much luck with the number on the reel foot fishhawkxxx 1 troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handi2 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think Jerry is out of business now. He called me months ago about purchasing all of his parts. It was too much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R. Bridge Fisher Posted February 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2021 I swapped back to the stock gear and pinion and reel is perfect. I did notice the spacer part #7080 that came with the upgrade is a little different in thickness. I might mess around and put in new gear and pinion with the other spacer. Popasilov 1 troll #122 <*)))< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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