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Is Faucci Responsible for Wuhan Flu?

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And now China will be the worlds largest economy in a few short years, then Dr. Fakey can go back and work there again 

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15 mins ago, ErikT said:

Man so Obama identified the risks of GOF and seized funding

Fauci commissioned a new project and subcontracted to ECOHEALTH ALLIANCE, INC. with Dr. Peter Dazsak

Dazsak then subcontracts the GOF (Gain of Function) piece that Obama just said was to unsafe to continue, to a friendly lab in Chine called the "Wuhan Institute of Virology"

 

Fauci is F'en guilty... Whether this was his original intention or not, they made it available and the rest is where we are now... 

 

Great thread

you cannot frack with Mother Nature and not expect her to kick you in the nutz. 

 

Ebola is certainly a jump from primates to humans. The only reason it has not killed all of us is because it is so fast-acting, extremely debilitating and highly fatal that it cannot spread quickly enough to reach even epidemic levels of spread. Also, because of the remoteness of the villages, self-isolation and isolation by neighboring communities is relatively "easy". No indication that there was ever any scientific involvement in ebola (and I am not suggesting there was) but it shows what can happen with an animal-human jump of disease. 

 

So what is to be drawn from a Gain of Function program that seeks to modify a bat virus so that its surface proteins can match and lock into human cells? 

 

The Chinese are trying to take their place in the world of science in a variety of industry sectors. The want Nobel Prizes and other recognition of national prominence (dominance?) to show that they are the 21st century leader they think they are. To do that they have selected cities/regions to focus on particular sectors and concentrate all of the brain power there expecting to amplify the efforts. In the case of Virology, Wuhan was specified as their virus research center so the CCP had to make it successful by allowing it to do cutting edge techniques. Makes one wonder how the connection between the desires of the CCP and Fauci's need to get the GoF research performed somewhere outside the USA. 

 

BTW, I am waiting for a modern interpretation of "The Andromeda Strain" to be made by Hollywood. Great older movie (1971) but shows that even the best made plans of man cannot stop unnatural bugs from getting out into the wild. 

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For those interested, here is the 2015 article from Nature that discusses the concerns raised by the research in question. 

 

https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research- 1.18787

Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research 

Lab-made coronavirus related to SARS can infect human cells.

12 November 2015
 

An experiment that created a hybrid version of a bat coronavirus — one related to the virus that causes SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) — has triggered renewed debate over whether engineering lab variants of viruses with possible pandemic potential is worth the risks.

 

In an article published in Nature Medicine1 on 9 November, scientists investigated a virus called SHC014, which is found in horseshoe bats in China. The researchers created a chimaeric virus, made up of a surface protein of SHC014 and the backbone of a SARS virus that had been adapted to grow in mice and to mimic human disease. The chimaera infected human airway cells — proving that the surface protein of SHC014 has the necessary structure to bind to a key receptor on the cells and to infect them. It also caused disease in mice, but did not kill them.

 

Although almost all coronaviruses isolated from bats have not been able to bind to the key human receptor, SHC014 is not the first that can do so. In 2013, researchers reported this ability for the first time in a different coronavirus isolated from the same bat population.

 

 

The findings reinforce suspicions that bat coronaviruses capable of directly infecting humans (rather than first needing to evolve in an intermediate animal host) may be more common than previously thought, the researchers say.

 

But other virologists question whether the information gleaned from the experiment justifies the potential risk. Although the extent of any risk is difficult to assess, Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, points out that the researchers have created a novel virus that “grows remarkably well” in human cells. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” he says.

Creation of a chimaera

The argument is essentially a rerun of the debate over whether to allow lab research that increases the virulence, ease of spread or host range of dangerous pathogens — what is known as ‘gain-of-function’ research. In October 2014, the US government imposed a moratorium on federal funding of such research on the viruses that cause SARS, influenza and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome, a deadly disease caused by a virus that sporadically jumps from camels to people).......

 

 

 

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This is the paper in question. Note the names in RED who did some of the wet work for this research, funded in part by the USA. 

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

  • Published: 09 November 2015

A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence

Vineet D Menachery, 

Boyd L Yount Jr, 

Kari Debbink, 

Sudhakar Agnihothram, 

Lisa E Gralinski, 

Jessica A Plante, 

Rachel L Graham, 

Trevor Scobey, 

Xing-Yi Ge, 

Eric F Donaldson, 

Scott H Randell, 

Antonio Lanzavecchia, 

Wayne A Marasco, 

Zhengli-Li Shi 

Ralph S Baric 

 

Xing-Yi Ge & Zhengli-Li Shi - Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

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36 mins ago, HopHead said:

Only one thing responsible for the chinese plague:  globalism.  Once the welcome mat was dropped at JFK and LAX for folks from every third world rat's nest to waltz right in it became inevitable.  I guess we can only hope once they get here they'll abide by western culture ie. bathing, not shitting in the street, not sleeping 14 people to a room, leaving the bush meat in ghana, leave the aids in sub-saharan africa and so on.

Come on Hop, it is not that simple. The CCP closed off Wuhan and prevented road or air travel to other Chinese cities. But they allowed international flights to continue to take Wuhanians to Europe and the USA. That was a CALCULATED DECISION by the CCP because if they cut off all air travel, then the people of Wuhan would have tried to drive or walk out of Wuhan and infect the rest of the region. So they provided a safety valve in the form of international air travel and people found that escape route. 

 

But, you are correct about globalism. Italy, particularly the region around Milan, was crushed by the virus and early on due to the number of Chinese in the region. A hub for the fashion and leather goods industry, the Chinese had bought entire factories and set up near sweatshop conditions to produce goods for export to China and elsewhere. Chinese businessmen brought the virus to that region which did not have the medical facilities to deal with the virus. Globalism killed thousands of Italians in that instance. 

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46 mins ago, HopHead said:

Only one thing responsible for the chinese plague:  globalism.  Once the welcome mat was dropped at JFK and LAX for folks from every third world rat's nest to waltz right in it became inevitable.  I guess we can only hope once they get here they'll abide by western culture ie. bathing, not shitting in the street, not sleeping 14 people to a room, leaving the bush meat in ghana, leave the aids in sub-saharan africa and so on.

I agree. On a simpler scale, it's one of the reasons for the uptick in measles cases. They all come from some shithole country with no vaccinations and many school districts don't require vaccinations. Measles was in all respects eradicated in the US.  

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We have become such a sorry ass society led by social media. To me the most 2 faced type people are politicians! Both parties get that feel good when they give away billions to things un AMERICAN,. There is no turning back, I your 60 and over you'll get thru it. Can you imagine if ever there was a world conflict! Your leaders will be first in the bunker hoping nothing lands on them todays , college kids will think soft correct words is going to solve problems. We can no longer fix a flat, wash our car, reason out a simple repair. We know nothing about about finances and preparing for your golden years. The younger generation thinks us oldies got everything easy! Many of us served our COUNTRY!!!!! we know sacrifice. Its hard today to find anything that's not negative, so now many believe if they read it, its the truth. So now all history is bad, next with be math, some will say(the machine at checkout will tell me)Half of all tv commercials today are fear based. Yet we suck it up. My worst commercial is Liberty Mutual where a boy gets a new bike for Xmas and kicks it. If your older you understand, if not you will suffer!.

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1 hour ago, HopHead said:

Prove me wrong smart guy.  WTF is gonna happen to fauci?  Nothing. But go ahead and stomp and scream karen. More hot air bull**** that belongs in the assbaby.

Huh? 

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1 hour ago, flyangler said:

Come on Hop, it is not that simple. The CCP closed off Wuhan and prevented road or air travel to other Chinese cities. But they allowed international flights to continue to take Wuhanians to Europe and the USA. That was a CALCULATED DECISION by the CCP because if they cut off all air travel, then the people of Wuhan would have tried to drive or walk out of Wuhan and infect the rest of the region. So they provided a safety valve in the form of international air travel and people found that escape route. 

 

But, you are correct about globalism. Italy, particularly the region around Milan, was crushed by the virus and early on due to the number of Chinese in the region. A hub for the fashion and leather goods industry, the Chinese had bought entire factories and set up near sweatshop conditions to produce goods for export to China and elsewhere. Chinese businessmen brought the virus to that region which did not have the medical facilities to deal with the virus. Globalism killed thousands of Italians in that instance. 

I don't disagree with you one bit and said as much at the start....the CCP wanted the hong kong mess to disappear and it did instantly.  It's a fact that diseases that haven't been an issue here for decade upon decade have re-emerged because of wide open global travel.  It is what it is and probably can't be stopped.  I was just making an observation on why spread is so much easier.  If a bug is bad enough it'll find its way around the globe eventually but prolly not with such speed as 15k wuhanians and their ilk flying into the states every single day of the year.

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Looks like Fauci will have a gig for life

 

 

Moderna CEO offers a bleak assessment of COVID-19:

 

Virus to stay with the world 'forever'

 

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16 mins ago, Hook I said:

  he's a smart man = knows exactly what's going on but I think it will be untouchable along with the Biden gang 

 

 

Scoop: Hundreds of Biden staffers receive COVID vaccine

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A week into the job, President Biden's White House medical team has administered the coronavirus vaccine to several hundred staffers — and aims to vaccinate all in-person staff over the next few weeks, officials tell Axios.

Why it matters: The new administration is ramping up steps to protect President Biden and all staff working inside the White House complex. The administration is also requiring daily employee COVID tests and N95 masks at all times.

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16 hours ago, ovenrat said:

thoughts ?

 

 

 

 


So, Mick was right? 

 

15 hours ago, Rickman said:

It would be such a blessing if all this would come together and Faucci et al would get what they deserve.

 

Never gonna happen. 

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