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2020 striper quota results

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The DMF announced that only 52% on the 2020 quota was filled. The DMF remains undeterred. The 2021 quota will remain the same.

The reasons given were "a lack of abundance of fish that met the 35" minimum size, changing ocean patterns, the culmative effect of increased regulations, etc".

 

How low will the landing have to get before the DMF wakes up, 25%, 15%? 

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"We missed the quota because there weren't enough fish to fill the quota, so we should try to double last year's take from the same population."

 

Unassailable logic.

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There’s always a bunch of excuses none of which are that the fishery is collapsing. Why is it so hard for people to admit that there is a problem?

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53 mins ago, z-man said:

Why is it so hard for people to admit that there is a problem?

Probably because that would mean our highly paid, highly educated biologists were wrong all along.

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4 hours ago, bob_G said:

The DMF announced that only 52% on the 2020 quota was filled. The DMF remains undeterred. The 2021 quota will remain the same.

The reasons given were "a lack of abundance of fish that met the 35" minimum size, changing ocean patterns, the culmative effect of increased regulations, etc".

 

How low will the landing have to get before the DMF wakes up, 25%, 15%? 

Wow. Like the old saying. "you can't make this s__t up. Totally absurd that this commercial season gets extended year after year and the pricing being way down too. 

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I douibt the biologists were wrong. Biologists, however, report to elected people whose reflex is to steer away from loud noises, and commercial anglers are  pretty vocal bunch.

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2 hours ago, HanoverStriper said:

Solution - raise the quota, and add more commercial days...

Problem solved

Sadly some people think this is the answer. “Maximum sustainable” harvest ... should those words be used together???

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One of the canal regulars last season was upset that he couldn’t commercial fish in 2020. He said he paid for his truck in 2019 with only canal bass. 
 

All I could picture was a beat up 1986 el Camino :laugh:

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So the R&R pinhookers have been saying there are plenty of big bass in the biomass.  Is this two years in a row that Mass can’t reach quota?  You just can’t make this crap up.  

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4 hours ago, bob_G said:

Probably because that would mean our highly paid, highly educated biologists were wrong all along.

The biologists are the ones who determined the stock was overfished (quantitatively) in the first place and provided their recommendations to rebuild the stock. The actual actions taken to address the overfishing is left to the commissioners, many of which are bureaucrats or part of special interest groups that ignore the science completely. 

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Anyone who’s spent more than a decade successfully targeting striped bass knows the stocks are in dismal shape and have been declining over the last several years. I’m 35 and have been fishing avidly since I was very young. During that time I’ve seen a dramatic decline of not only striped bass, but bluefish, fluke, and tautog in SE MA. It’s hard to comprehend why the scientists in charge of regulations can’t figure out something is wrong. 

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Listen, it's obvious that the striper quota wasn't met because the commercial guys suck at fishing.  DMF needs to make it as easy as possible for them. Commercial fishing 7 days a week, river herring harvest for commercial guys only and the recreational share cut in half.  DMF knows damn well those fish are out there, it's just that those clueless commercials can't catch a fly....

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3 hours ago, BrianBM said:

I douibt the biologists were wrong. Biologists, however, report to elected people whose reflex is to steer away from loud noises, and commercial anglers are  pretty vocal bunch.

Biologists are wrong a lot. Don’t have to much faith in science and government. That’s all government no matter what side. 

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