Stopsign32v

How do you tell what the bait is at any given time?

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This might be a stupid question but I gotta ask...

 

I've read the "match the hatch" countless times, but no one explains how to. So how do you know the color/what the fish are feeding on at any given time?

 

As close as I can say, last time I was fishing at the beach I saw some 4-5" minnow looking fish swimming close along the shore. Other than that, I'm clueless.

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5 hours ago, Stopsign32v said:

This might be a stupid question but I gotta ask...

 

I've read the "match the hatch" countless times, but no one explains how to. So how do you know the color/what the fish are feeding on at any given time?

 

As close as I can say, last time I was fishing at the beach I saw some 4-5" minnow looking fish swimming close along the shore. Other than that, I'm clueless.

Read up on what bait they feed on. Read up on where that bait shows, where it migrates to and from. Study pics of the bait. If you do this, you can pick anywhere on the striper coast and have a good baseline knowledge of what the fish are probably feeding on at any given point during the season along that particular stretch. 
 

Basically, just put in your time. 

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13 mins ago, rbart said:

Read up on what bait they feed on. Read up on where that bait shows, where it migrates to and from. Study pics of the bait. If you do this, you can pick anywhere on the striper coast and have a good baseline knowledge of what the fish are probably feeding on at any given point during the season along that particular stretch. 
 

Basically, just put in your time. 

Got any suggestions on where to get that info?  

I'd want to make a chart/calendar thing.  What bait is where when. 

Obviously it wont be precise, but info that would help my selections. 

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11 mins ago, PSegnatelli said:

Got any suggestions on where to get that info?  

I'd want to make a chart/calendar thing.  What bait is where when. 

Obviously it wont be precise, but info that would help my selections. 

Is this a serious question? I don’t know, maybe Google search” Striped Bass bait?” :idea:

You will actually have to put effort in to learn this sport. 



 

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10 hours ago, rbart said:

Is this a serious question? I don’t know, maybe Google search” Striped Bass bait?” :idea:

You will actually have to put effort in to learn this sport. 



 

Thanks for the help. 

 

Eta. 

I just love learning. I get what u said about putting your time in,  and maybe I worded it wrong.  Just seems like an obtuse response when I'm trying to put time in. Maybe not on the water. But in print or Edu studies done. 

 

 

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40 mins ago, shark lobster said:

Start by looking in the water see bait ? Boom there ya go son .

I see reading is not your specialty

6 hours ago, Stopsign32v said:

As close as I can say, last time I was fishing at the beach I saw some 4-5" minnow looking fish swimming close along the shore.

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Stripers can be weird with feeding habits.   Striper eat Bunker right?  Well not always.  Where i fish Bunker is a staple if you have fresh and bass present they will eat it.

 

I took that knowledge on the road with me to the north and got fresh and tried the chunk.  Nada.   Those bass where there but they ignored the chunks.  They wanted fresh squid.  Put a squid on and BAM fish on

 

So. Look listen and watch always be ready to be flexible 

 

I like to go to anywhere where I can see into the water (bridge,  inlet or anything with height)  get on those glasses and just watch.  If the back bay is loaded with peanuts then you can guess what the bass in the surf are looking for.  Beach is covered with sandfleas,  hmmmm

 

A cast net can help as well.

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''Match the hatch " is a term used by people who think they know what they are talking about. Striped bass are a garbarge fish,they will eat anything that they can swallow.The only way to know what they are eating is to actually see them swallow bait or open one up and see whats in its belly

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1 hour ago, Sandbar1 said:

SCUBA

I wish.   That would be so awesome.  

I wouldnt even swim around. Just sit there and watch.  

 

Are there any underwater livestream cameras?  Sit home, sip some tea, better than anything on the TV that's for sure. 

 

 

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I've learned a lot by talking to those around me and talking with guys in the parking lot or way out to the spots.  One thing great about surf casters is everyone I've talked to on the South Shore LI is helpful.  Share what you know and they will share back.  Be cool about it and don't get to close to them if they are fishing, but if you are catching and they are not go offer up what you are using.  Most days I know what to cast before my first cast  unless I am alone.  Then it's what ever worked best last time is what I start with.  When not getting any hits make big changes to the size and water depth and also walk the beach.  I've learned so much from John Skinner books and videos he is so informative.  Yes, put in your time but try lots of different lure sizes and depths this time of year.  They are out there but picky because so much bait around.  For example the other day I was throwing green trailers and lures and no luck.  I switched to red am bam hit after hit.  Then the size of the trailers make a big difference.  Smaller size sinks faster lower in the weather column and larger higher.  Put your time in for sure, but try different things when not getting hits.  Conditions play a major role in what to throw as well.  I can go on and on here.  good stuff !

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2 hours ago, l.i.fish.in.vt said:

''Match the hatch " is a term used by people who think they know what they are talking about. Striped bass are a garbarge fish,they will eat anything that they can swallow.The only way to know what they are eating is to actually see them swallow bait or open one up and see whats in its belly

There is some validity to this post - there are occasions when stripers do key in on a specific bait, and they can become hard to catch (even while matching the hatch). But these are temporary conditions, and more times than not, you can throw a wide variety of offerings (imitating a number of species of baits) and find good success

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16 hours ago, PSegnatelli said:

Thanks for the help. 

 

Eta. 

I just love learning. I get what u said about putting your time in,  and maybe I worded it wrong.  Just seems like an obtuse response when I'm trying to put time in. Maybe not on the water. But in print or Edu studies done. 

 

 

I understand and I apologize for being blunt, but I stated in my first reply a good amount of info to get you started. From there I thought you’d run with it. 
 

Id say at the very least, try to mimic those 4-5” minnows you saw. That’s a good observation.  Any size bass will eat a profile like that. Bass love peanuts that size, silversides, sand eels, juvie sea herring etc. Many easy to come by plugs will replicate whatever you saw. An SP minnow, a bomber 16A , a redin and a small choppy needle will imitate those. 
 

But again, study bait migrations. Yes, they’re garbage fish, but that doesn’t mean they don’t key in on different baits at different times. Unless you’re throwing eels, it pays off knowing what’s around. 

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