FishinDVM

Penn Fathom 25N people?

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So I have a 25N loaded with 80lb braid, to an FG knot shock of 60lb mono (probably 15 to 20 turns around the spool whatever yardage that is) then to a very short 6" 80lb leader. I use this for 8 and a chunk, SOMETIMES 10 and a chunk. As of right now, I launch it 50 to 60 yards. I am happy, I catch, but of course I'm looking for further. Most places I fish, I feel like I just need a LITTLE more to hit that deep cruising trough just inside the outer bar. I feel I have an educated thumb... I never backlash unless I really am trying to push the cast for that spot, or maybe 1 cast out of every 2 or 3 night trips, when I cant see so well and again, I'm pushing for max cast. My questions are as follows:

 

1) anyone here throwing a 25N?

2) how do you have your tension control and drag pins set? How many of the 6 pins on vs off?

3) I use 2 or 3 right now (I forget, have to take the side plate off), but should I maybe go to 4 brakes? That seems like a lot, but for HEAVY weight (8 or 10 with a head) isn't this what you are supposed to do? Also, should more brake be used with lighter line or braid vs mono as a general rule? 

 

Thanks... Chris

 

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I would drop the 60lb mono to 80lb mono and run a slightly shorter 80lb (0.80mm mono) leader of around 8-10 turns around the spool and then enough for a drop, with rig and sinker) of roughly 1/2 the rod length, say 20-25'

Technique

Look into clipped down bait rigs, distance will be improved.

Technique

Inasmuch you might feel heavier weights (8-10oz) are better for casting, often they are not. Practice with 5-6oz

Technique.

25N is a pretty good caster, I do prefer it static magged over the centrifugal system but that may just be me.

Technique.

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Ditch the 80lb braid mainline. You don't need that line strength on a reel with 25lbs max drag.

 

Use 50lb braided line as main line instead.

 

Use an 80lb mono shock leader with 5 wraps around the spool, plus about 1.5x the length of the rod.

 

2 brake blocks is all you should need.

 

Also, what rod are you using?

 

How is your technique?

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The term "25N" is just a size designation by PENN, and refers to a number of different models [10 in all] across the Torque, Fathom, and Squall platforms in star drag and lever drag designs.

Sounds like you are probably talking about the Fathom star drag, although that also has two generations in heavy use right now. 

Users of each may have slightly different experiences.

 

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I'm assuming you're using the same star drag model Penn Fathom as mine - FTH25N. At 50 to 60 yards you are not coming close the potential you could enjoy from that reel on an 11 to 12 ft surf rod. I second dropping to 50 - 65 lb braid, and using four brake pins at most. Spool tension should allow a tiny amount of sideways movement. Have you tried dropping down to a more manageable 5-and-bait rig? However, as is the case with nearly all of us, technique is the key to improvement needed here rather than radically fixing the existing kit. There are lots of casting videos on YouTube that can help. These videos helped me focus on loading up the rod, and delivering a smooth, powerful follow-through on the cast. You will hit 100 yards before you know it. 

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41 mins ago, FishinDVM said:

The St Croix 6-16oz... its a MSS120HMF2 I believe.

 

From my experience those rods shine at 6nbait. Once at 8nbait they do ok, but 10nbait or more and the rod feels overloaded.

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1 hour ago, Beastly Backlash said:

 

From my experience those rods shine at 6nbait. Once at 8nbait they do ok, but 10nbait or more and the rod feels overloaded.

So I would practice (without bait) in a field to hone your skills with 4oz, 5oz and 6oz. Perhaps just stick to 5oz to start

Easycast / Unitech to get the feel of what a loaded rod should feel like.

Who knows, you may think you are casting 60yd but are actually doing better.....

Then move to a cast that allows you to rotate a bit and then with a Hatteras style.

My personal view is that a Hatteras cast happens so quickly that the whole thing can get away from you.

A neat way to get an understanding of distance is to spike your rod in a field and then walk off 150 yards and place your sinker on the ground with the line fairly taught.

Walk back towards your rod for 100 yards (measure from the leader knot) and mark the mono with a 12" or so section of black spray paint; then move 25 yards closer and make 2x 12" marks and then back at the rod (150 yards) 3x 12' marks.

You can then watch for the marks as they leave the reel. (When you practice and fish)

Now as the marks leave the spool it means 100 yards (and 125 and 150) of line are off - this does not equate to a 100/125/150yard cast, but you will have an eay way to measure progress.

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I like ZAFisher's and others' suggestions. There are other ways to measure distance too. When I cast at a local soccer field with old growth trees lining it. I use to Google maps distance tool. For example, sixth tree from the goal line is 100 yards away. For more precision, I walk a sports tape (bought it at HF for $10) measure out, setting out markers (old rags with a rock on top, for example) at 50, 75, 100, 125, and 150 yards, before casting. I like this video series but you will have to conceptualize thumbing the spool higher up (Saffers and Aussies like the low reel): 

 

 

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