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My job will take me close to some epic big sturgeon water (8-10 ft fish are not uncommon in Idaho rivers) for a month. Bank fishing is possible in many areas and I plan to take a guided boat outing at least once. Here are some of the outfits I have. Can you critique and make recommendations:

 

A) 6ft Jigging boat rod (80-130 lbs rating) with Penn VI 8500LL reel (80 lb/425 yd braid)

B) 7'6" ft conventional boat rod (40-80 lbs rating) with Penn Fathom II 15 (50 lb/320 yd braid) 

C) 12 ft Penn Battalion Surf Hvy (50-65 lbs rating, 5-12 oz sinker) with Akios 757 (65 lbs/320 yd braid)

D) 12 ft Penn Carnage Surf Hvy (50-65 lbs rating, 4-8 oz sinker) with Penn VI 8500LL reel (80 lb/425 yards braid)

 

Some people are talking about 500 yards of 130 lb braid and I'm wondering what kind of reel and rod combo would be castable? Senator 9/0? Spinfisher 10500? Sarcastically, sure why not just use a Senator 16/0 reel and yak out a 10 lb catfish out as bait? 

 

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4 hours ago, Capefox said:

My job will take me close to some epic big sturgeon water (8-10 ft fish are not uncommon in Idaho rivers) for a month. Bank fishing is possible in many areas and I plan to take a guided boat outing at least once. Here are some of the outfits I have. Can you critique and make recommendations:

 

A) 6ft Jigging boat rod (80-130 lbs rating) with Penn VI 8500LL reel (80 lb/425 yd braid)

B) 7'6" ft conventional boat rod (40-80 lbs rating) with Penn Fathom II 15 (50 lb/320 yd braid) 

C) 12 ft Penn Battalion Surf Hvy (50-65 lbs rating, 5-12 oz sinker) with Akios 757 (65 lbs/320 yd braid)

D) 12 ft Penn Carnage Surf Hvy (50-65 lbs rating, 4-8 oz sinker) with Penn VI 8500LL reel (80 lb/425 yards braid)

 

Some people are talking about 500 yards of 130 lb braid and I'm wondering what kind of reel and rod combo would be castable? Senator 9/0? Spinfisher 10500? Sarcastically, sure why not just use a Senator 16/0 reel and yak out a 10 lb catfish out as bait? 

 

I fish for sturgeon in the Snake River in Washington.

 

You CANNOT use braid.  Don't let anyone talk you into that.  The Snake River has carved its way through a vast lava flat, so the bottom is covered with basalt rock.  Basalt is extremely abrasive and cuts through the heaviest braids within seconds.  Actually, it's worse than merely cutting the braid.  Basalt shreds heavy braid while the fish runs.  When the fish breaks off 10 seconds or so after hook-up the basalt will have ruined yards and yards of braid.  I learned that lesson several years ago, losing a HUGE fish and having to trash over 100 yards of line. Stick to monofilament.  I primarily use Momoi, because it's very abrasion resistant and has low memory (casts well).

 

You need a reel that holds 300+ yards of 50 lb mono.  Your best choice in reels is a castable lever-drag 2 speed like an Avet HXW, Penn Torque 60, Penn Fathom Lever Drag 60 2 speed, etc.

 

If your Battalion's specs are accurate it will work, since you'll may need to cast 10 oz plus bait.

 

If you'd like to discuss specific hooks, baits, types of sinkers, etc., we can do that.  I'll check back in a few days....busy doing some things with friends I haven't seen in 15 years.

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Thanks for the tip on mono vs braid. I decided to throw caution to the wind and buy an even bigger Penn Spinfisher, the 10500. It holds about 300 yards of 50 lb mono, has a 50 lb drag, and I don't have to worry about casting a Senator 4/0 or 6/0 or something equally challenging. People have caught 12 foot sharks and car-sized rays with these monster reels. Now I just need the world's most powerful spinning rod, and I'd better start working my twig arms out on the bowflex.  

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The good news is that if you hire a guide for a day, as you say you plan to do, the guide will have appropriate gear.

 

When I fished sturgeon on the Columbia River a few years ago, it reminded me of nothing more than shark fishing in fresh water.  We used a whole shad as bait, on a standup rod and lever-drag reel loaded with 100-pound braid.

 

Had one fish that probably went close to 300, so the gear was justified.

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Try Cabo 120 or Fin Nor Offshore 10500 for reel.

Get a HEAVY ACTION popping rod 8ft to 10ft good for boat n casting, which i used to catch huge Mulloway.

Black Hole got mention in forum many times, give them a try.

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On 10/14/2020 at 2:57 PM, Capefox said:

Thanks for the tip on mono vs braid. I decided to throw caution to the wind and buy an even bigger Penn Spinfisher, the 10500. It holds about 300 yards of 50 lb mono, has a 50 lb drag, and I don't have to worry about casting a Senator 4/0 or 6/0 or something equally challenging. People have caught 12 foot sharks and car-sized rays with these monster reels. Now I just need the world's most powerful spinning rod, and I'd better start working my twig arms out on the bowflex.  

Sorry I took a while to return. When I first replied, I was duck hunting in Michigan with a great friend.  I came home exhausted and had to jump on some issues at work.

 

Funny, I've considered buying a Slammer III 10500 for guests and honestly, I'd like to use it myself.  I keep talking myself off that ledge, though.  A 2 speed reel cuts the fight time down substantially, so it's better for the fish.  I still want that Slammer, though. 

 

It's not going to be the same as fighting sharks and rays in the open ocean.  The river, particularly some of the narrower stretches with rapids and steep banks (canyon country), presents its own set of challenges.  If you're fishing from shore you'll have to be able to follow a big fish once it leaves the hole and goes downstream (or upstream!...had that happen).  With that Spinfisher, you should be fine with fish up to about 8 feet or so.  A 10+ footer will be a problem if you can't follow it.

 

A quick note on leaders and hooks.  Keep your leader short.  REALLY SHORT, like 3 to 5 inches.  That will keep the fish from swallowing the hook AND you can also cast farther.  I use 130 lb. Dacron leader.  My favorite hook is Gamakatsu's Big River Bait Hook in 9/0 and 10/0, mostly 9/0.  Washington, Idaho, and Oregon require a single barbless hook, so I mash the barbs and use a Dremel Tool to grind off what's left.

 

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