Striper46

Haswing W20

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If anyone is looking for a different motor that will fit in the Hobie drive this one will, it’s actually smaller then the water snake 24lb. Prop is way better then the water snake and seems lighter in weight. No testing yet. 

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After taking head apart it’s clear it’s not water proof. Really just the power wires would need to be sealed if using the stock unit. The switches look better then water snake

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if it performs the same for you as the t24 and is lighter thats the one ill be doing this winter for the rear rod holder mount + remote control.  the minn kota is so heavy compared to these with nearly no speed upgrade from 24to30#.  i wish you good fortune in the wars to come

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I actually took my other build apart and moved everything in the battery box so i can use my hobie cassette build and side mounted motor with the same battery, Speed control and remote. 

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On 10/12/2020 at 9:03 AM, gobigblue said:

if it performs the same for you as the t24 and is lighter thats the one ill be doing this winter for the rear rod holder mount + remote control.  the minn kota is so heavy compared to these with nearly no speed upgrade from 24to30#.  i wish you good fortune in the wars to come

The motor and mount weighs 5.2lbs....total build battery, motor and remote is 22lbs.

 

my water snake build weighs 6.9lbs

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Haha, my point exactly! 
 

Looked at the clone on boats to go.. still 269 :( but having a pwm built into the motor head would be sweet! And that awesome parts availability 

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Tested this out the other day and I'd say the motor side mounted is about the same speed you would get from pedaling at a normal pace where the water snake was slightly above pedal speed. So the watersnake is a little more powerful i guess, not for sure cause I've never had the watersnake side mounted. 

 

using the pedals at the same time doesn't give a ton of extra speed but it does give you another half to one full mph over the motor alone. it actually makes pedaling slightly easier too.

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15 mins ago, Striper46 said:

Tested this out the other day and I'd say the motor side mounted is about the same speed you would get from pedaling at a normal pace where the water snake was slightly above pedal speed. So the watersnake is a little more powerful i guess, not for sure cause I've never had the watersnake side mounted. 

 

using the pedals at the same time doesn't give a ton of extra speed but it does give you another half to one full mph over the motor alone. it actually makes pedaling slightly easier too.

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Assuming you’ve considered the possible impact of the constant pressure from the bottom edge of the pipe against the skin/thickness of the rod holder sleeve (focused pressure zone) ... the scuppers were reinforced after multiple failures due to carts, not sure if the rod holders were too?
 

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32 mins ago, Africaster said:

Assuming you’ve considered the possible impact of the constant pressure from the bottom edge of the pipe against the skin/thickness of the rod holder sleeve (focused pressure zone) ... the scuppers were reinforced after multiple failures due to carts, not sure if the rod holders were too?
 

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never really thought about it but the contact point is actual at the top of the rod holder not the bottom, the sleeve is wrapped with tape to make a tight fit at the top so the bottom isn't even touching the sides. the mount is 100% solid there is no movement when you engage the motor. I will def keep an eye on it though. I had my doubts about this mount but it works perfectly. I thought for sure it would wiggle out after a while but it doesn't move, you just have to built it correctly and perfect otherwise it won't work.

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52 mins ago, Striper46 said:

never really thought about it but the contact point is actual at the top of the rod holder not the bottom, the sleeve is wrapped with tape to make a tight fit at the top so the bottom isn't even touching the sides. the mount is 100% solid there is no movement when you engage the motor. I will def keep an eye on it though. I had my doubts about this mount but it works perfectly. I thought for sure it would wiggle out after a while but it doesn't move, you just have to built it correctly and perfect otherwise it won't work.

oh yee of little faith, i never doubted for a second you would see it as an upgrader over the mirage motor.  its definitely maybe a little slower in the rod holder, but when combined with a brisk pedal(which as you noted is now EASIER) i can get an easy 5mph.  i could never do that with the mirage motor+paddle!

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59 mins ago, gobigblue said:

oh yee of little faith, i never doubted for a second you would see it as an upgrader over the mirage motor.  its definitely maybe a little slower in the rod holder, but when combined with a brisk pedal(which as you noted is now EASIER) i can get an easy 5mph.  i could never do that with the mirage motor+paddle!

we have completely different motors, for me to get 5mph i would have to be going with the tide, wind at my back plus a fast pedal lol. I know cause that's exactly what i had to do the other day to reach 4.8mph. Going into the tide with 10-15mph in my face with just the motor i was around 1.4mph and 2.1mph pedaling at a normal relaxing pace. It was a new moon tide so it was faster then normal. If you are a buck fifty you can probably get better speed but i weigh 230 lol 

 

thanks for the idea, I've wanted to side mount for a while but did not want some big contraption so i decided the $25 to build and 30 minutes of time was worth the test, it was worth it and i love it. the pedals in play is a game changer. Its great to be able to move fast if you see a wave or something coming, with the motor your pick up and go is terrible. Will also be nice on those cold days where you need to pedal some to keep warm and not have to swap out the drives. lots of pros to having both.

 

I also did some testing with the position of the pedals while just using the motor and i didn't see a difference no matter if the pedal were straight down or locked against the hull.

 

I did end up pointing the motor slightly in and i mean slightly, it tracks straight

 

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