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Can Pelosi Give Trump A Stimulus "Win"? - Kudlow Says Trump Approved Deal

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Larry Kudlow was just on Varney's show and said that Trump has approved a revised stimulus package. Pelosi and Mnuchin will speak today. 

 

Can Pelosi afford to give Trump a victory at this time? 

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6 mins ago, zybathegeek said:

Depends on what is in it, Pelosi has experience with passing bills to see what is in them.

Varney played that clip as a reminder 

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kaz, if there's a deal, both sides will claim victory. Pelosi can remind people that Trump said he was cutting off negotiations when there's people hurting but Dems saved the day for them.

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2 mins ago, patchyfog said:

kaz, if there's a deal, both sides will claim victory. Pelosi can remind people that Trump said he was cutting off negotiations when there's people hurting but Dems saved the day for them.

But whose signature will be on the check?

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1 min ago, patchyfog said:

kaz, if there's a deal, both sides will claim victory. Pelosi can remind people that Trump said he was cutting off negotiations when there's people hurting but Dems saved the day for them.

Except, anyone paying attention knows that the House Dems' deal included bailouts for big cities deficits. No way Trump agreed to that, soooooooo, Pelosi's victory will be somewhat hollow. 

 

BTW, I think the internal polling on Pelosi's desk is what has dragged her back to reality. Trump called off talks, called her bluff, and she had to relent. 

 

My $0.02

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4 mins ago, patchyfog said:

kaz, if there's a deal, both sides will claim victory. Pelosi can remind people that Trump said he was cutting off negotiations when there's people hurting but Dems saved the day for them.

And Trump can remind the Country that there was no deal, sooner, because of all the bull**** Pelosi wanted added. 
Then name the list. 
 

she had best be careful of what she reminds people of

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7 mins ago, patchyfog said:

kaz, if there's a deal, both sides will claim victory. Pelosi can remind people that Trump said he was cutting off negotiations when there's people hurting but Dems saved the day for them.

And only "naive" people don't realize that "walking away from the table" is just another negotiating tactic, and almost never is an end to negotiations. And in many cases is a catalyst in getting a deal done...

Ever witnessed any union negotiations?

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22 mins ago, flyangler said:

Larry Kudlow was just on Varney's show and said that Trump has approved a revised stimulus package. Pelosi and Mnuchin will speak today. 

 

Can Pelosi afford to give Trump a victory at this time? 

She can, however she won’t.  Pelosi has spent the last four years attempting to destroy the Trump administration, l see no reason now why she would change.

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“Covid Relief Negotiations are moving along. Go Big!” Trump tweeted on Friday morning, a striking reversal from his position on Tuesday when he said he would walk away from negotiations with Democrats on a comprehensive relief bill to assist businesses and American workers impacted by the coronavirus pandemic.

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2 mins ago, patchyfog said:

“Covid Relief Negotiations are moving along. Go Big!” Trump tweeted on Friday morning, a striking reversal from his position on Tuesday when he said he would walk away from negotiations with Democrats on a comprehensive relief bill to assist businesses and American workers impacted by the coronavirus pandemic.

Ever bought a car?

Never left the showroom, only to have the dealer call back the next day?

Pelosi is the dealer....

 

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13 mins ago, patchyfog said:

“Covid Relief Negotiations are moving along. Go Big!” Trump tweeted on Friday morning, a striking reversal from his position on Tuesday when he said he would walk away from negotiations with Democrats on a comprehensive relief bill to assist businesses and American workers impacted by the coronavirus pandemic.

 

Is there a reason you chose that snippet of The Hill's article? 

Trump to propose $1.8T coronavirus relief package

Inching closer to Democrats’ demands, President Trump and his aides on Friday will offer Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) a $1.8 trillion coronavirus relief package, sources said, as the president urged the negotiators to “go big.”

The new figure was a jump from the White House’s $1.6 trillion offer last week, but there was no indication that Pelosi would come down from her demand for a $2.2 trillion package.

“Covid Relief Negotiations are moving along. Go Big!” Trump tweeted on Friday morning, a striking reversal from his position on Tuesday when he said he would walk away from negotiations with Democrats on a comprehensive relief bill to assist businesses and American workers impacted by the coronavirus pandemic.

White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told reporters at the White House that Trump had settled on a “revised” stimulus package but declined to offer details, beyond saying that it addressed stimulus checks and airline assistance. He did not offer a specific dollar amount at the time.

He did not indicate whether Democrats had agreed to the deal and noted that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, the lead Trump administration negotiator, would be discussing the potential agreement. The White House previously said it would raise its stimulus offer to $1.6 trillion; House Democrats passed a $2.2 trillion bill last week.

Trump has sent conflicting messages on his position on stimulus over the past three days. On Tuesday, the president abruptly called off the talks between his White House and Pelosi until after the Nov. 3 election, accusing Democrats of negotiating in “bad faith” and seeking “bailouts” for states poorly-run by Democrats, a move that sent stocks tumbling.

Trump tweeted later that evening that he wanted Congress to approve standalone bills offering airline assistance and checks to Americans.

Mnuchin has spoken with Pelosi several times over the past few days despite Trump’s original claim to have called off negotiations on a broader bill. According to Pelosi’s office, Mnuchin told the speaker Thursday that the president is interested in reaching a comprehensive agreement.

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5 mins ago, Finster said:

Ever bought a car?

Never left the showroom, only to have the dealer call back the next day?

Pelosi is the dealer....

 

The key is that the WH was going to try to go with separate, sector-specific, support bills. That would be bad for Pelosi and Dems because then they could be argued to be "against" the sectors they would not move bills for. 

 

Also, focused bills make it much harder to puff up the bill with all the little do-dads that the Dems want to giveaway, but bury in the details. 

 

Trump played her like a harmonica 

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