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8 mins ago, moonbat said:

Please.  Much of the time this entire forum is a monument to hate and no one group has a monopoly on it.  Anyone who thinks one side bears all the responsibility ineds to look around a bit more carefully.

I agree WRT this forum

 

But I am talking about the politics.  Wiretapping, Kavanaugh, Muller, Impeachment, 25th Amendment.  I think at this point its clear which political party is operating on hate and the consequences be damned.

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9 mins ago, Nessmuk said:

We know he’ll try and do it,  And then Republicans will do it too.  And then we’ll have 500 justices and the court will swing wildly every time the Oval Office and Senate align, completely subverting the intent of the Constitution.  Completely ignoring the role of the SCOTUS as the nation’s steadying force.

 

If Democrats do this, it’s time to start over.

I agree.  Here's the thing with these two groups. 

 

It only takes one to stop the tit for tat and hardcore leveraging.

 

Then the other will be seen for the bag of dicks they are.

 

But each side is too married into the hardcore leveraging.

 

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Just now, Shipwreck said:

I agree WRT this forum

 

But I am talking about the politics.  Wiretapping, Kavanaugh, Muller, Impeachment, 25th Amendment.  I think at this point its clear which political party is operating on hate and the consequences be damned.

If history goes back only four years then yes.  Now look back about 30 or 40 and see what you get.

 

And it leads to the tit for tat I mentioned above.

 

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At most I would think that the Democrats would add 2 judges to the SC, but only if there is another judge appointed between now and inauguration depending on the result. 
Maybe if a judge is installed before inauguration Depending on outcome everyone will be a little more forthcoming? 

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1 min ago, moonbat said:

If history goes back only four years then yes.  Now look back about 30 or 40 and see what you get.

 

And it leads to the tit for tat I mentioned above.

C'mon man (totally non ironic).

 

Its never been this bad in our lifetime.  

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So someone just sent me this article, written by a liberal staff writer at The Atlantic. Her subtitle tells what you need to know and suggests that this avoidance on the part of Biden and Harris may be turning into a narrative torpedo. When she suggests that "fellow Democrats" are getting nervous about this, you know there is something happening behind the scenes. As always, I wonder what their internal polling is telling them about the public view of swing voters on this subterfuge?

Biden and Harris Need an Answer on Court Packing

The pressure to take a position, not just from Republicans, but also from fellow Democrats, may only grow.

 

Supreme Court confirmation battles have become all-out political wars, and last night’s vice-presidential debate offered a hint of the next stage in the escalation. Mike Pence and Kamala Harris were sparring over Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination when Pence turned to Harris and posed a challenge.

 

“Are you and Joe Biden going to pack the Court?” he asked her. In recent weeks, as Democrats have faced the possibility that an Antonin Scalia protégée will replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the bench, progressives have pushed a proposal to add new justices to the Court, arguing that it’s the only way to safeguard decisions on voting rights, abortion access, and same-sex marriage. “This is a classic case of, if you can’t win by the rules, you’re going to change the rules,” Pence continued. He turned to look into the camera. “The American people would really like to know.”

 

Harris refused to answer the question directly. Instead, she took a historical detour to 1864, explaining why Abraham Lincoln didn’t appoint a new Supreme Court justice shortly before he was up for reelection. “The American people are voting right now, and it should be their decision about who will serve on this most important body for a lifetime,” she said.

 

Maybe the Biden team thinks court packing is a distraction from the fight over Barrett—his communications director, Kate Bedingfield, has said as much. Maybe the question is still unresolved within the campaign. Maybe Harris didn’t want to answer a question from Pence; throughout the evening, both candidates dodged direct queries from the moderator, too. Whatever the reason, if Democrats win big in November, court packing will be an urgent and live question that Biden and Harris will have to take on within their coalition. Evasion isn’t a good enough answer.

 

With less than four weeks to go before the election, Americans are more tuned in to the future of the Supreme Court than at any time in recent memory. Nearly six in 10 voters say the Court will be “very important” to their choices in November, and the issue now ranks among voters’ top concerns, according to a Morning Consult poll taken shortly after Ginsburg’s death....

 

Republicans are also betting that court packing is a bad look for Democrats. The last major push for court packing happened under President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who openly wished for justices who wouldn’t challenge his sweeping New Deal legislation. “If you cherish the Supreme Court and the separation of powers, you need to reject the Biden-Harris ticket come November 3rd, and we’ll keep the nine-seat Supreme Court,” Pence said.

 

Pence’s tactic here is familiar: tying the historically moderate Biden to the desires of the Democratic Party’s progressive wing. But the Biden campaign may not be able to easily wave it away. When Harris was vying for the Democratic presidential nomination, she said she was open to adding more justices to the Court; so did multiple other candidates competing in the primary. In the past, Biden has dismissed court packing, but he declined to answer whether he wants to expand the Supreme Court during the last debate. The Senate minority leader, Chuck Schumer, has said that court packing will be “on the table” if Barrett is confirmed, and other members of Congress have rallied behind the proposal. The pressure to take a position, not just from Republicans, but also from fellow Democrats, may only grow.

 

With Congress at a perpetual standstill, the Supreme Court has become the default venue where some of the most high-stakes American political questions get adjudicated. Republicans have shown that they are willing to do whatever it takes to maintain a conservative majority on the Court, including holding open Scalia’s seat for nine months before the election in 2016, and now attempting to confirm Barrett just a few days before the election in 2020. If Democrats want to take the radical step of court packing in pursuit of their revenge, a drawn-out, bloody battle surely lies ahead. November’s election is a referendum on the chaos of the last four years. But the election might not end the chaos—it might just bring a new era. Right now, it’s the president’s move on the Court, but Biden and Harris have to be ready for their turn.

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4 mins ago, moonbat said:

And it leads to the tit for tat I mentioned above.

Did someone say "tit"?

 

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1 min ago, moonbat said:

If history goes back only four years then yes.  Now look back about 30 or 40 and see what you get.

 

And it leads to the tit for tat I mentioned above.

Imagine telling a two term President that you can forget about making any Supreme Court nominations in your last year, 'cause we won't even put a hearing on the calendar. That kind tit is gonna result in a tat.

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4 mins ago, Shipwreck said:

C'mon man (totally non ironic).

 

Its never been this bad in our lifetime.  

No, but the tit for tat keeps building every time there is a shift of who is in control.

 

You think it is going to be better with a Biden or Harris presidency, that the Reps won't ratchet up the hate?

 

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"Then it will have to come out!" - The Brain Specialist

 

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2 mins ago, Slacker said:

Imagine telling a two term President that you can forget about making any Supreme Court nominations in your last year, 'cause we won't even put a hearing on the calendar. That kind tit is gonna result in a tat.

Yup.   What is happening now would not have been an issue.

 

That was actually the move in 2016 that got a Republican friend and co-worker of mine, a life long Republican, to leave the party.

 

His words:  "McConnell's a punk."

 

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"Then it will have to come out!" - The Brain Specialist

 

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14 mins ago, Slacker said:

Imagine telling a two term President that you can forget about making any Supreme Court nominations in your last year, 'cause we won't even put a hearing on the calendar. That kind tit is gonna result in a tat.

Agree.  

And it backs up Moonie's and my philosophy.  That was direct retribution for Reid's bull ****.  We can only tit for tat for so long.  We are running out of institutions and traditions that make this country great.

 

What the **** is next?

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25 mins ago, Bernie12 said:

and he's a bit of a fag.. but, thats neither here nor there

The Tavern has lost an idiot and he's spending time in the PG. 

 

@Terry Mac - it is time to come collect your girlfriend, she's making a fool of herself. 

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Just now, Shipwreck said:

Agree.  

And it backs up Moonie's and my philosophy.  That was direct retribution for Reid's bull ****.  We can only tit for tat for so long.  We are running out of institutions and traditions that make this country great.

 

What the **** is next?

More tit talk. 

 

But that path leads to MAAD when you are dealing with nukes. Same will happen to our republic if this continues. 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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