Changed Body Size on New Saragosa SWA?

[atvanast]

As far as I know for the old Saragosa SW the 8000 and 10000 shared a body size with different spools. And in stellas and other Shimanos I believe the 14k and 18k share body size with different spools. Just based on the weights listed for the new Saragosa SWA on shimano’s website the 10000 (24.3 oz) and new 14000 (24.7oz) sizes are closer in weight than the 10000 (24.3) and 8000 (23.8 oz). In addition the 14k (24.7oz) and 18k (32.2oz) are  further apart in weight than the 10k and 14k. So basically the 8k and 10k are .7 ounce apart and the 10k and 14k are only .4 ounce apart. The 14k and 18k are a whole 7.5 ounces apart. Does this mean the new 14k gosa is a 10k with a deeper spool, apposed to a 18k with a smaller spool? I read on a Aussie site that they are sliming down the body on all sizes to cut weight. None of my local tackle shops have gotten the new Saragosa yet, and I seems j and h is still waiting on the larger sizes. Does anyone have any insight into this mystery?

[atvanast]

Also for reference, the old Saragosa 8k and 10k (that had same body, but different spools) were both listed as weighing 24.3 oz.

[mike1010]

Alan Hawk wrote an extended rant on Shimano posting inconsistent and inaccurate reel weights in their advertising, including the web site.  FWIW.

[canary]

You are totally wrong, you are mixing! (not to be confused with 1 ° spheros & gosa F). Medium body size 8k-10k-14k...18000 HG is already a large size ~920grs? (stella sw, sw-b and sw-c or new gosa).

As I said in another post, except 5.7 ratio and spool,gosa 18k-20-25k share everything (like stella), even rotor! (not stella 30k or sw-c 8kvs14k).

[atvanast]

1 min ago, canary said:

You are totally wrong, you are mixing! (not to be confused with 1 ° spheros & gosa F). Medium body size 8k-10k-14k...18000 HG is already a large size ~920grs? (stella sw, sw-b and sw-c or new gosa).

As I said in another post, except 5.7 ratio and spool,gosa 18k-20-25k share everything (like stella), even rotor! (not stella 30k or sw-c 8kvs14k).

I made sure to get the correct weight numbers from the Shimano site. So are you basically saying 8k-14k all have the same body size? Also I’m talking specifically about the new 2020 SWA, which is supposed to have a new more compact body. 

[atvanast]

25 mins ago, mike1010 said:

Alan Hawk wrote an extended rant on Shimano posting inconsistent and inaccurate reel weights in their advertising, including the web site.  FWIW.

I have seen similar posts regrading line cap and max drag, but was under the impression that reel weight was the most accurate metric. I am probably mistaken, I’ll look in to Alan Hawks comments.

[Steg]

It could be - I am not certain about this - that the new Saragosa is similar to the new Stella in that the 8000 size reels might not be compatible with 10000 & 14000 spools. The 8k Saragosa might be slimmed down in the same way as the 8k Stella. 

What gives me this idea is a note on the Shimano Japan site saying the 8000 Stradic SW reels are for PE line only. 

 

[Tourstage]

its tough to tell right now as many places are out of stock. i do own 6k and if ur comparing the old and new gosa weigh difference, i think the new one is lighter..i could be wrong until i measure them but from what i can tell, the new gosa body is smaller..

[surfcityNJ]

I don't think you're accurate. 10K and 14K are likely similarly sized for Shimanos, take a look at the Twin Power. 18K is going to be 20K +.

Edited October 8, 2020 by surfcityNJ

[ZAFisher]

13 hours ago, atvanast said:

So are you basically saying 8k-14k all have the same body size? Also I’m talking specifically about the new 2020 SWA, which is supposed to have a new more compact body. 

2020 SWA in 8-14k sizes share a common body (RD 21277) and a common rotor (RD 21301)

Edited October 8, 2020 by ZAFisher

[Tourstage]

8 hours ago, surfcityNJ said:

I don't think you're accurate. 10K and 14K are likely similarly sized for Shimanos, take a look at the Twin Power. 18K is going to be 20K +.

sure? 2013 stella 5 and 6k share the same body with different cap spool 

8k and 10k will be same body

[atvanast]

6 hours ago, ZAFisher said:

2020 SWA in 8-14k sizes share a common body (RD 21277) and a common rotor (RD 21301)

I just looked at at your post with the Shimano aus schematics, thanks for clearing this up.

[RiverShoulders]

The parts schematic diagram usually tell the tale via part numbers.  At least that's what I have used in the past to answer similar questions I had.

[westhavendave]

I am hoping the 10k and 14k will be able to interchange spools. Tough enough to get the reels, imagine how hard it will be to get a spare spool.

[Sailah]

Got my new SWA Saragosas, an 18k and 14k.  The 18k is super smooth, weighs 920g (32.45oz).  The 14k weighs 695g (24.5oz) but has a bit of vibration that is not in either of my older 20k Gosas and the new 18k.  Hopefully will be addressed.  The 14k drag clicker is much louder than the 18k or 20k.

 

When I spin them on my desk, all of the larger sizes are pretty well balanced and just holding the foot with my hand, exhibit no vibration.  The 14k vibrates enough that it's hard to hold down.  Maybe I'm being too picky but I was expecting more from the 14k and the size I really wanted.  They are def more slim through the body than the older models.

 

 

18K SWA on the left, 20K SW on the right

 

 

14K SWA, 18K SWA