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Has anyone use siwash hooks for a regular bait hook fishing?

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This sounds dumb, has anyone used siwash hooks for regular bait fishing? The profile looks a little different then like a bait holder or something similar. What would be the issue using it?

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I'm guessing there was a typo, and you meant "Siwash" and not "swish" hooks.  It that's true, yes, I have, long ago.

 

The Siwash, as the name suggests, was developed in the Pacific Northwest for salmon, fish with soft mouths that tend to jump a lot.  That hints at the answer to your question.

 

I iused them years ago, when I used to fish chunks for bluefish.  Also used them back then for livelining bunker.

 

The same thing that makes them particularly good for salmon made the Siwash hooks effective on bluefish--the loing barb and deep, rounded bend made it tough for jumping fish to throw the hook; they worked well for that.

 

When livelining, the long barb and deep bend made it far less likely that the hook would double back into the bait, and hook the bunker instead of the bass or bluefish trying to eat it.  However, the disadvantage is that the long barb is harder to set in a fish with a hard mouth (that's why the barb on the traditional Virginia hooks used for blackfish are so short), so more bass were missed with the Siwash.

 

To some extent, that's all academic now, as we're going to have to use circle hooks for all--or maybe in Maine and Massachusetts, mostly all--bait fishing beginning next year, and really should be looking to circles while bluefishing, too.  But yes, I've tried Siwash hooks in bait, and for bluefish, at least, they work pretty well.

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33 mins ago, CWitek said:

I'm guessing there was a typo, and you meant "Siwash" and not "swish" hooks.  It that's true, yes, I have, long ago.

 

The Siwash, as the name suggests, was developed in the Pacific Northwest for salmon, fish with soft mouths that tend to jump a lot.  That hints at the answer to your question.

 

I iused them years ago, when I used to fish chunks for bluefish.  Also used them back then for livelining bunker.

 

The same thing that makes them particularly good for salmon made the Siwash hooks effective on bluefish--the loing barb and deep, rounded bend made it tough for jumping fish to throw the hook; they worked well for that.

 

When livelining, the long barb and deep bend made it far less likely that the hook would double back into the bait, and hook the bunker instead of the bass or bluefish trying to eat it.  However, the disadvantage is that the long barb is harder to set in a fish with a hard mouth (that's why the barb on the traditional Virginia hooks used for blackfish are so short), so more bass were missed with the Siwash.

 

To some extent, that's all academic now, as we're going to have to use circle hooks for all--or maybe in Maine and Massachusetts, mostly all--bait fishing beginning next year, and really should be looking to circles while bluefishing, too.  But yes, I've tried Siwash hooks in bait, and for bluefish, at least, they work pretty well.

Thank you for the long good explanation! 

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