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MFW passed a nw rule for all WMA's last year that all dogs, unless actively engaged in hunting or trying for field trials or hunting need to be leashed.  This morning went for a walk in a WMA in 11, popular with non hunters.  saw so many unleashed dogs, a few were being trained by bird hunters which is fine, but so many of the others were just people from the area walking their dogs.  As I was leaving a woman walking what appeared to be a pointer mix off lead, starts talking to me about scouting, had my treated cams pants on for ticks. after a few minutes, we hear another woman screaming for her dog to come, and out of nowhere comes a schnauzer flying up to us.  The woman I was talking to is telling her dog to leave it, but it was too late the schnauzer was under her dog, and next thing you know in her dogs mouth.   The dog was screaming, show she puts her dog by the collar off his front legs, and he drops the schnauzer.   I pick up the schnauzer, and can still hear the owner, " whats going on over there".   She is at least 80 yards away around the other side of some corn.  So I head toward her voice.   She is with another guy, he also has a schnauzer off leash, and a woman with a medium sized dog that also looked like a schnauzer  also off leash.  She started thanking me as she saw me approaching with her dog in my arms.   I told her that her dog was supposed to be on a leash, for it's own safety, and other dogs safety.  She interrupts me and says, "thats why we come on Sunday when there is no hunting", trying to brush me off.    So I try to explain to her that it is a year round rule and has nothing to do with hunting.  It is to avoid these situations, avoid dogs harassing wildlife etc.   

 

I shot off an email to MFW this is obviously a regular Sunday morning event, cause the woman with the pointer mix told me later that the schnauzer bit her dog before.

Hopefully they will send someone over on Sunday mornings to educate or ticket these entitled folks

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Not a masswildlife issue, an EPO or local police issue. They can enforce the regulations, mass wildlife cannot give a citation.  

 

For the record, Mass wildlife and the EPO have headquarters in my town next to a WMA, and dogs are always off leash. 

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I've said this many times.  The best people I've ever met are always bird hunters.  Most are totally committed to their dogs and their safety.  

It's the non hunters with untrained, uncontrollable dogs who bring the problems to a WMA.  They see hunters training and hunting their dogs, off a leash, and assume they can do the same.  Not realizing most good bird hunters spend hundreds of hours training their dogs prior to taking them out in the field.

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1 min ago, bob_G said:

I've said this many times.  The best people I've ever met are always bird hunters.  Most are totally committed to their dogs and their safety.  

It's the non hunters with untrained, uncontrollable dogs who bring the problems to a WMA.  They see hunters training and hunting their dogs, off a leash, and assume they can do the same.  Not realizing most good bird hunters spend hundreds of hours training their dogs prior to taking them out in the field.

Exactly, if your dog won't heel, or come when called it has no business being off lead..

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30 mins ago, ged said:

Not a masswildlife issue, an EPO or local police issue. They can enforce the regulations, mass wildlife cannot give a citation.  

 

For the record, Mass wildlife and the EPO have headquarters in my town next to a WMA, and dogs are always off leash. 

Yes you are correct, however they made the regs, and will forward it to the appropriate officer.

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37 mins ago, bob_G said:

I've said this many times.  The best people I've ever met are always bird hunters.  Most are totally committed to their dogs and their safety.  

It's the non hunters with untrained, uncontrollable dogs who bring the problems to a WMA.  They see hunters training and hunting their dogs, off a leash, and assume they can do the same.  Not realizing most good bird hunters spend hundreds of hours training their dogs prior to taking them out in the field.

Have you been exposed to tree dog enthusiasts Bob? The commitment and dedication are similar and usually there are several hounds that form a pack to chase and tree game miles from the turnouts. Dog guys , real dog guys are a special bunch indeed. 

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If you truly cared about your pet you wouldn’t place them in a situation where they could be harmed like that.   I mean if a yote had grabbed that dog, there probably would have been no getting it back....

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1 hour ago, FishRatz said:

I walk my pooch off leash in our local woods without  issue.  She is very smart, always  comes  when called , never violent to  others , or other dogs.

I trained her to behave. 

I realize that there are  far too many other  irresponsible dog owners. 

However,  I  will  continue to conduct my dog walks as always. 

 

 

Leash it if there is a leash law. Always the same story, me dog is so nice, it never bothers anyone. ..lol .My dog was bit by one of these "always" nice dog this spring. Stitches, drains, cone...etc. Carry mace now and will have no problem macing a dog or mouthy owner. Had to abandon most trails at start of Covid as people discovered the outside world

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30 mins ago, TonyO said:

Leash it if there is a leash law. Always the same story, me dog is so nice, it never bothers anyone. ..lol .My dog was bit by one of these "always" nice dog this spring. Stitches, drains, cone...etc. Carry mace now and will have no problem macing a dog or mouthy owner. Had to abandon most trails at start of Covid as people discovered the outside world

Crap owners and their dogs are without a doubt the biggest problem anyone will run into if they spend any real time out on public land.

Mace for the dog ....and as a "first" line of defense for the owner. 

 

It's a serious problem.

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14 hours ago, Plug and teaser said:

Crap owners and their dogs are without a doubt the biggest problem anyone will run into if they spend any real time out on public land.

Mace for the dog ....and as a "first" line of defense for the owner. 

 

It's a serious problem.

if you  mace a dog without just cause, you  will get jail time 

ASPCA will be on your  case big time.

 

 

 

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LOL who would mace a dog, or person without cause ?

 

If a dog acts threatening to my wife and me when we are out minding our own business , he's going to get it without delay.

If the owner doesn't like it and acts threatening, he's next.

 

Simple as that.

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Had dogs my whole life, mine is sitting next to me now.

But having a large snarling German Shepard back us into a pond was the last straw for me.

Had a knife but after a while it backed off.

Not doing that again.

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