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Florida requires a fishing license.  I'm guessing that, like most states, they also provide a copy of the rules when you buy the license.

 

So the situation is really pretty easy to navigate.

 

1)  Read the rules before you go out.

2)  Follow the rules when you go out.

 

Do that, and you can spend a lifetime fishing and never get on the wrong side of the law.

 

At 18, you are legally an adult, and thus can be expected to assume an adult's responsibilities.  You are old enough to enter into binding contracts.  You are old enough to get married without your parents' permission.  You are old enough to walk into a military recruiter and agree to put your life in harm's way.

 

At 18, you are old enough to be expected to know the rules before you take any regulated action, including fishing.  And if you choose not to, you are old enough to accept the consequences of your failure.

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37 mins ago, harley48 said:

$7500 bail sounds a tad excessive 

Florida fish and game enforce their laws.

 

I know this snowbird from New Jersey, that became a jailbird in Florida... 

 

He exceeded his limit of Speckled trout. Him and his buddy had a mandatory court appearance where dinning in the best restaurants would have been inexpensive compared to there fines for breaking the law. He said they spent the day in court with the rest of the poachers. The judge made sure there cases came up last... :beatin:

 

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On 9/12/2020 at 0:42 PM, 55555s said:

 

This.  And selective enforcement cheapens every rule and, in turn, compliance with rules.

 

If its a rule worth having in place, give no quarter.  If not, then get rid of it. 

 

Makes sense. Since all those youtubers are blatant repeat offenders I am going to assume that none of them have received so much as a warning.

 

Kid probably watched one to many blacktiph or landshark videos not realizing youtube celebrities have different rights.

 

Oh well.

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12 hours ago, dennysnook said:

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The general public can report violations here and they even give you a reward incentive for being a snitch. That atleast goes to enforcement and investigation, not general questioning. 

 

So that is how you make some extra cash on the side when fishing isn't good?:laugh:

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On 9/12/2020 at 1:00 PM, JoelJ said:

 

Thank you. Just don't forget that there always is 2 sides of the coin that's why the regulation writers were consulted.  Without any definitive answer from them and maintaining I am right and you are wrong won't get us anywhere and everything at this point remain as opinions. Sad to hear "there is a lot of leeway given" by the authorities but noooo, it don't count here ... not in here you don't - we'll just keep on :deadhorse: until something gives.  

 

PM you so you can send me appropriate contacts? If you're really serious or seriously hoping the community can get together as you mentioned here's something even better ... why don't you put here the "appropriate contacts that you can send the pictures to" so other responsible "sportsmen" and the fishing community as a whole can help the authorities enforce these conservation regulations ... 

 

It is unfortunate that leeway is given in some cases, but not others. However that is true for law enforcement across the board.

 

It could be that this kid simply got hit so hard with penalties because he didn't simple remove the fish from the water, but he actually left the area he was fishing and then got the picture taken. He can't even argue that he merely removed the fish from the water to remove the hook.

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It is entirely the responsibility of the person fishing to research and know the law prior to goin' fishin' - simple as that. With the internet at a person's fingertips today, there is no excuse whatsoever - in my humble opinion.

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Just now, The Zen Master said:

It is entirely the responsibility of the person fishing to research and know the law prior to goin' fishin' - simple as that. With the internet at a person's fingertips today, there is no excuse whatsoever - in my humble opinion.

 

When fishing in Florida, if I don't recognize a fish and can not 100% positively identify the fish it gets released.

 

I am color blind, so it actually makes things a bit more difficult for me, especially when it comes to identifying various species of snapper. I err on the side of caution as no fish is worth getting hit hard with fines.

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1 hour ago, Beastly Backlash said:

When fishing in Florida, if I don't recognize a fish and can not 100% positively identify the fish it gets released.

Exactly what I was thinking. No matter where I am, if I'm not 100% on IDing the species it goes back

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2 hours ago, Beastly Backlash said:

 

When fishing in Florida, if I don't recognize a fish and can not 100% positively identify the fish it gets released.

 

I am color blind, so it actually makes things a bit more difficult for me, especially when it comes to identifying various species of snapper. I err on the side of caution as no fish is worth getting hit hard with fines.

Same here.  Its hard for a colorblind person to hunt and fish.  I can't pick out jig colors, track a deer, or ID mushrooms.  

 

I am glad that officers can use some discretion when pursuing justice.  The law can be cut and dry but sometimes it is not.  Several of my family and friends are state troopers and they have a lot of stories where there isn't a clear answer.  That being said, this one seems pretty cut and dry.  If it is his first offense I would hope he doesn't have to stay in jail for very long.  Not a big fan of extended jail time for first time non-violent but I think that discussion goes on a different forum.  lol.  

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8 hours ago, Beastly Backlash said:

 

Makes sense. Since all those youtubers are blatant repeat offenders I am going to assume that none of them have received so much as a warning.

 

Kid probably watched one to many blacktiph or landshark videos not realizing youtube celebrities have different rights.

 

Oh well.

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the youtubers have received fines and just think of it as a business expensive. Some of those guys are making stupid money. 

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10 hours ago, Beastly Backlash said:

 

So that is how you make some extra cash on the side when fishing isn't good?:laugh:

Nah, my side hustle is pimping out internet fisherman because they are good with their mouth. You need some extra cash?

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7 hours ago, dennysnook said:

Nah, my side hustle is pimping out internet fisherman because they are good with their mouth. You need some extra cash?

 

So you hire people good with typing words to stick up for you online?:huh:

 

How much do you pay Ged?

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If he had hit it with this, nobody would have known and the kid would have had a great dinner. One less pest that would have spent its life eating short grouper and snapper.

 

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