dena Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, zybathegeek said: It celebrates the ascent of humanity through education and evolution, dangerous concepts to wilful ignorance. I saw that too, but didn't find it offensive. To be factual, it should also show the devolution of man, back to his baser instincts. Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Fisher Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dena said: I am not sophisticated, or nuanced, enough to see it either. I noticed the broad in the low cut dress, but that is hardly note worthy. I am going with that there is not enough sexy sexy among the same sex set, or not enough people of color. Neanderthals at the bottom, enlightened whitey at the top. Libs see themselves as Neanderthals, i guess. Certainly they are unenlightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, Fishy Fisher said: Neanderthals at the bottom, enlightened whitey at the top. Libs see themselves as Neanderthals, i guess. Certainly they are unenlightened. Like I said, I saw that, but didn't find it offensive. I noted the lack of diversity in another post, and asked if that was the issue. If some faces at the top were shaded, to look ethnic, would that appease the censors? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRaider Posted August 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 I’ll put this here instead of starting another thread The Taliban Mob tore down and defaced a statue (a tribute) to Washington in LA yesterday They hate this country, they hate the ideals that Washington’s likeness represent And Democrats either golf clap or cheer loudly, little difference between the two A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. – William James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 min ago, RiverRaider said: I’ll put this here instead of starting another thread The Taliban Mob tore down and defaced a statue (a tribute) to Washington in LA yesterday They hate this country, they hate the ideals that Washington’s likeness represent And Democrats either golf clap or cheer loudly, little difference between the two Being so angry can't be healthy. Might make one susceptible to the Covid. Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zybathegeek Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 14 mins ago, dena said: I saw that too, but didn't find it offensive. To be factual, it should also show the devolution of man, back to his baser instincts. The vertical aspect implies evolution through ascent, higher learning and aspiration to further ourselves. Wilful ignorance misses that, and sees only it's baser nature mirrored. Politicians and diapers should be changed often and regularly, invariably for the same reason. ______________________________________________________________ "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 3 mins ago, zybathegeek said: The vertical aspect implies evolution through ascent, higher learning and aspiration to further ourselves. Wilful ignorance misses that, and sees only it's baser nature mirrored. Yea, yea, yea, the tree, growth, all of that. Isn't that what we humans do, we grow, until we don't, then we decay. That isn't offensive, unless you think, because of a lack of diversity at the top, only White folks grow. If that is so, would darkening some faces at the top appease the censors? Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zybathegeek Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 min ago, dena said: Yea, yea, yea, the tree, growth, all of that. Isn't that what we humans do, we grow, until we don't, then we decay. That isn't offensive, unless you think, because of a lack of diversity at the top, only White folks grow. If that is so, would darkening some faces at the top appease the censors? It is art, and opens up an intelligent discussion about how art reflects the mores of the time. Much like the concept of a woman's beauty in Botticelli's time was well rounded and voluptuous. Politicians and diapers should be changed often and regularly, invariably for the same reason. ______________________________________________________________ "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 mins ago, zybathegeek said: It is art, and opens up an intelligent discussion about how art reflects the mores of the time. Much like the concept of a woman's beauty in Botticelli's time was well rounded and voluptuous. Closing the art from view stifles that conversation, before it even gets started. Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zybathegeek Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 mins ago, dena said: Closing the art from view stifles that conversation, before it even gets started. Hence to OPs reference to the Talibans reductionism. Politicians and diapers should be changed often and regularly, invariably for the same reason. ______________________________________________________________ "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zybathegeek Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 min ago, zybathegeek said: Hence to OPs reference to the Talibans reductionism. What galls me the most is that the University and others of the same ilk, so called bastions professing aspirations to higher learning kowtow to this ignorance. Politicians and diapers should be changed often and regularly, invariably for the same reason. ______________________________________________________________ "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, zybathegeek said: What galls me the most is that the University and others of the same ilk, so called bastions professing aspirations to higher learning kowtow to this ignorance. Universities used to be conversation, of this type, starters. I guess it changed when education went from learning to indoctrination. Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55555s Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dena said: Are you saying my revulsion at Podesta's art is my problem. I can live with that, if it is. From an artists perspective, yes. What you see is a function of what the artist portayed through the filter of your own experiences and bias'. I can live with it as well. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55555s Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 40 mins ago, RiverRaider said: And Democrats either golf clap or cheer loudly, little difference between the two Do not forget this ^^ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zybathegeek Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Just now, dena said: Universities used to be conversation, of this type, starters. I guess it changed when education went from learning to indoctrination. A school of higher learning, ensured conditioning by degrees Academia runs rampant in communicative incongruities 21st Centuries monumental towers of Babel Politicians and diapers should be changed often and regularly, invariably for the same reason. ______________________________________________________________ "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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